TNT DINAR UPDATE 7-30-25

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The Spaces provided a late-evening RV status update hosted by Tony (TNT Tony) with co-host Ray (RayRen98), opening with a tribute to Okie (Okie Oil Man) for decades of contributions. Tony strongly cautioned listeners against walking into banks with currency or invoking his name, noting recent incidents that triggered bank halts. He outlined that rates are now showing at teller screens under a Do Not Buy (DNB) flag; per banking rules he cited, once rates reach teller level they should become publicly visible within roughly 12 hours, suggesting an overnight window (around 1:30 a.m. ET) and potential morning exchanges by appointment via an automated 800-number system. He emphasized no appointments can be made directly with branches. Q&A covered expected Forex visibility, NDAs for rates above the public (Forex) rate, minimum volume considerations for higher “contract” rates, and example pricing (e.g., IQD >$5 on screens, a reported $28 offer, VES around $0.33). US-based exchanges may achieve higher rates due to special arrangements; international rates will vary by currency pair. The call closed with readiness steps, reminders to follow instructions, and a promise to disseminate 800 numbers as soon as received.

TNT Twitter Spaces – Jul 30, 2025 Update: RV status, bank procedures, rates, and community guidance

Who spoke

  • Tony (TNT Tony) – primary host and source of banking/intel updates.
  • Ray (RayRen98) – co-host, moderating Q&A and logistics.
  • Mentioned/acknowledged contributors: Okie/“Okie Oil Man” (pioneer in the community), Tish (intel sharer), Danny in Dallas (community member), plus various callers by handle: Bus Lady, Finrir, Stellar Surfer, Sheila D, Jumbo Sailboat, LB, Kevin, Guru Dana, Major, and others.

Context & acknowledgments

  • Tribute to Okie (Okie Oil Man) for pioneering efforts over 15–20 years, connecting TNT to early congressional/senatorial contacts and co-hosting calls; recognized for significant health challenges and continued contributions.
  • Personal shout-outs: birthdays for Hillary (Danny’s daughter, turning 50) and Pastor Barb’s husband Wayne.

Critical reminders to the community (bank behavior and attribution)

  • Tony emphatically stated he has never told people to “go to the bank now.” Recent incidents (two days prior) saw people showing up at banks with bags of currency claiming “TNT Tony said go,” leading to banks halting a near-exchange in process and escalating concerns.
  • This behavior is exactly what banks fear; it jeopardizes relationships and can delay rollout logistics.
  • If you must reference the show when speaking to banks, Tony advised saying “Ray said,” not “Tony/TNT said.”
  • Many banks have already told walk-ins: “Appointments can only be made via the 800-number automated system.” Do not expect walk-ins to be accommodated.

Status of the RV process and banking system (as claimed by hosts)

System status

  • Prior steps reportedly completed: BIS and IMF actions “ran through the system,” numbers loaded. However, banks were instructed “do not go” until given explicit authorization, delaying exchanges despite technical readiness.
  • Today (call day) was described as the quietest in 15 years across banks and government contacts—“quiet before the storm.” Activity resumed after ~1 pm ET with consistent messaging that “it is done.”

Teller-screen visibility and the 12-hour rule

  • Hosts reported rates are at the teller level but covered by a DNB (Do Not Buy) control flag. Earlier confusion with terms like DNP/DMP was resolved by Tony and Ray to “Do Not Buy (DNB).”
  • Claim: A standard banking rule requires that once a rate reaches teller level, it must be made visible to the public within 12 hours.
  • Timing provided: the teller-level visibility was said to have occurred shortly after 1:00 pm ET; thus, public visibility should be around 1:30 am ET (±) and visible by morning, assuming the rule is followed.
  • Tellers themselves will not see the rate while DNB is active; wealth managers, finance/regional managers may know provisional figures.

Iraq-side messaging

  • In Iraqi mosques Tuesday night, congregants were reportedly told the new rate would go live Thursday morning (Iraq time). The expected US visibility overnight aligns with early morning in Iraq (~8:00 am Iraq time), per the hosts.

Forex visibility

  • Expectation: if live by morning, rates should be seen on Forex, aligning with teller-screen go-live.

Rates and offers discussed (all characterized as reports/rumors until public)

  • IQD (Iraqi dinar):

    • Hosts said several screens showed “over $5,” but emphasized rates are masked by DNB and cannot be transacted yet.
    • Anecdote: one individual attempting an exchange Tuesday was reportedly offered $28.00 (not $28.50), before the transaction was halted due to the broader “don’t go” instruction and the alert triggered by bank system monitoring. NDA and interest discussions were not reached.
    • Access to top-tier offers: Tony stated you would need “at least a million” IQD and an appointment at the right level to see offers like $28; a caller later inferred that smaller holders (e.g., 150,000 IQD) should expect the Forex (4x) rate, not the high-negotiated tiers.
    • Tony’s rough bounds for “Forex rate” mentioned during Q&A were in the ballpark of $3.87 to $5.00 (illustrative; not confirmed final rates).

  • VND (Vietnamese dong):

    • Rates are “there,” but no specific public figure was shared on this call. Digital VND (e.g., on devices/cards) should go at Forex rate, per Tony.

  • VES (Venezuelan bolívar, often mispronounced “boulevard” on the call):

    • Multiple reports of offers at $0.33 were cited from different banks/locations. Hosts have also heard lower and higher, but withheld “ridiculous” numbers.

  • ZIM (Zimbabwe historical notes):

    • Tony responded “as far as I know, yes” when asked if ZIM rates remained the same, but no figures were disclosed.

  • “Agro” checks/bonds (Zimbabwe Agricultural bearer instruments):

    • Tony said “they said they’re going to go,” including references to “hundred billion check” instruments; details and rates not provided.

  • Other: A question on “VIAO” (unclear designation) being pushed to a later basket or permanently banned drew Tony’s reply that he doesn’t know where it goes; new sanctions were coming “but don’t affect their currency,” so permanent exclusion wouldn’t make sense. No further clarity.

  • “Crazy numbers”: Tony indicated he’d heard extremely high figures (referenced jokingly alongside “Elon Musk” and “Miami group”) and refused to disseminate them due to lack of confidence and to avoid confusion.

  • General principle: “First in gets the biggest pieces of the pie.” Early appointments may see better slices, with diminishing terms over time.

  • NDA guidance: Anything over the Forex rate is “about to be” under NDA. Expect NDAs when negotiating beyond market rates.

Procedures & logistics

  • Appointments only via 800-number automated system: This was reported by multiple banks to callers/walk-ins. Expect congestion; Tony compared it to difficulty reaching IRS automated lines.
  • Tellers vs managers: Tellers cannot see or quote the rate while DNB is active; wealth managers/finance/regional managers may have rate intel, but cannot transact until DNB is removed.
  • Bank rate hotlines: Many banks maintain public 800 numbers listing daily foreign exchange rates via automation; post-go-live, these lines may reveal the offered retail rates.
  • Small exchanges: Prior guidance (last month) hinted that holders with $500 or less in currency may be able to walk-in; for today, Tony had “no guidance” except that banks told people appointments are only via the automated system.
  • Wells Fargo and other banks: Tony expects the 800-number process to be handled by Wells Fargo for multiple currencies. At the exchange site, staff from other banks will be present so you can transfer proceeds if you prefer another institution.

International considerations

  • Global activation: Once live, Forex visibility should be global.
  • Rate differentials: Rates will vary by currency pairs; USD-based rates in the US will differ from CHF-based rates in Switzerland, etc.
  • US advantage: Tony asserted US rates will be the highest due to special arrangements/direct trade stemming from Iraq war alliances. Advice to US citizens abroad: consider returning to the US to access the higher US-based rates (timing caveat: special rates “won’t last long”).

Political/security notes (as discussed by the hosts; non-verified)

  • Nouri al-Maliki incident: Hosts discussed reports of Maliki suffering a heart attack or stroke and being very ill at home; Tony speculated about the timing relative to reported “quad commander” meetings with Maliki’s circle without PM Sudani present; he repeatedly emphasized no direct allegation—presented as speculation about “coincidence” and “message sent/message received.”
  • The day’s silence across sources (banks, agencies) was characterized as unprecedented and interpreted as “quiet before the storm.”

Community ops, comms, and post-go-live

  • “13 task force” availability: Details to be announced on Open Mic and posted on TNT’s website (registration planned).
  • 800-number dissemination: Tony will share via email/text and on TNT channels as soon as received.
  • Subscription/ten-day period: Tony referenced doing “our 10 days” post-RV and later advising when to sign up for $100 and $1,000 options (context suggests TNT community programs; details not provided).

Q&A highlights (selected)

  • Bus Lady: Concerned about 800 system congestion; Tony agreed it may be difficult (IRS comparison). On the halted $28 IQD offer: no NDA was presented before the stop; NDAs expected for above-Forex rates. High-tier offers typically require at least 1 million IQD at the right appointment level.
  • Finrir: No ZIM in the halted case; ZIM rates believed unchanged. Expect Forex to show first thing in the morning if live. Tellers will not disclose rates while DNB is active; managers know but cannot transact. Banks’ automated 800 FX lines may list rates once posted.
  • Stellar Surfer: On VES (bolívar) direct—Tony reiterated multiple reports of $0.33 offers; alignment with IQD go-live expected.
  • Deer to Drink: Clarified teller-screen status: rates present but covered by DNB; banking rule says public view within 12 hours of teller-level.
  • Sheila D: $0.33 VES offer reportedly came from Wells Fargo; other banks will compete, but spreads may be pennies, not dollars. Wells Fargo’s 800 expected to handle most currencies; at exchange sites, reps from other banks available for transfers.
  • Rebecca: With only 100,000 IQD, expect Forex (4x) rate, not high-tier negotiated rates.
  • Jumbo Sailboat: Noted the significant value difference from “$28.50 vs $28.00”; Tony acknowledged but reiterated he’ll notify everyone immediately when 800 numbers are released.
  • Guru Dana (EU-based): Global Forex visibility expected; rates differ by country/pair. US will offer highest rates; US citizens abroad should consider returning. Digital VND acceptable at Forex. “Agro” checks: “they said they’re going to go,” but specifics unclear. Special-rate window won’t last long (no timeframe given). Bonds: no usable update; currencies first.
  • Betty G: Consolidating POA/joint accounts to negotiate higher rates—Tony: you can try; one combined transaction may improve negotiating leverage, but ensure legal/ownership clarity when dividing proceeds.

Key takeaways

  • Do not rush or walk into banks. Appointments are expected to be only through an 800-number automated system. Tellers cannot transact while DNB is present on screens.
  • Hosts claim teller-level rates are present behind a DNB flag; per their cited banking rule, public visibility should be within 12 hours. They expect visibility overnight and activity in the morning if rules are followed.
  • Expect Forex visibility if live. US-based rates are expected to be superior due to special arrangements; global rates will vary by currency pairs.
  • High special rates (e.g., IQD ~$28) are reported in anecdotes but require significant holdings and the right appointment level; otherwise, expect Forex (4x) rates. Above-Forex deals will likely require NDAs.
  • VES offers around $0.33 were reported by multiple sources; ZIM rates believed unchanged; VND at Forex; “Agro” checks reportedly included but details are thin.
  • Avoid invoking “TNT Tony” at banks; if necessary, say “Ray said.” Banks are sensitive to misinformation and mass show-ups.

Action items for listeners (per hosts)

  • Wait for official 800 numbers and use the automated system to book your appointment.
  • Do not bring bags of currency to banks uninvited; do not call or appear en masse.
  • If/when visible, verify bank rates via official bank 800 FX lines and/or Forex.
  • Prepare documentation (IDs, currency proof, POAs, entity docs) and a negotiation plan; aggregated holdings may help at appointment-level negotiations but manage legal/ownership carefully.
  • Expect and be prepared for NDAs if you pursue above-Forex rates.
  • Monitor TNT channels (Open Mic, website, email/texts) for the 800-number and task-force registration updates.