TNT DINAR UPDATE 9-28-26
The Spaces focused on an update from Tony and Ray that, per their sources, nothing material has changed: the primary window to watch remains Sep 28–30, with Iraq likely declaring full sovereignty on Sep 30 and broader activity potentially visible by Thu morning (Oct 1). They reiterated that even with sovereignty, Iraqi funds still clear through New York and the Federal Reserve. Banks (Wells Fargo, Chase) were reportedly prepped with early-morning meetings, and some selective pre-exchanges have occurred, but public release awaits a green light. Strong warnings were issued against fake paywall sites selling an “800 number” for $200–$300; the 800 number will be free and posted publicly on X. Currency statuses mentioned: Vietnamese dong and Indonesian rupiah included; Venezuelan bolívar (VES) discussed in depth, including denomination nuances and pricing anomalies; ZIM still uncertain. Tony highlighted an IMF-like bank program (reportedly at Wells) offering 22% monthly/33% yearly on exchange proceeds, advising listeners to compare offers with their own bankers. Callers asked about sovereignty vs clearing in the U.S., VES denominations (Soberano vs “Digital”), and song attribution. The hosts stressed patience, that no single entity controls timing, and advised avoiding scams while preparing banking relationships and numbers.
TNT Call Recap and Analysis (Mon, Sep 28)
Participants and Roles
- Tony (host; commonly known as TNT Tony): primary presenter of intel, timeline expectations, cautionary guidance.
- Ray (co-host; RayRen98): opened the call, handled Q&A, clarified music question, explained Venezuelan bolívar series.
- Callers:
- “Dare to Dream” (listener): questions on Iraqi sovereignty and USD clearing through New York.
- Victor Woody (listener): brief acknowledgment, prior military perspective.
- Rico (listener): follow-up on VES denominations and 2020 notes; appreciation for prior explanations.
- Dave (advisor/guest referenced by Tony and Ray): contributed rate math/commercial logic regarding VES and oil/currency restrictions.
Purpose, Tone, and Disclaimers
- Purpose: A short check-in to confirm status since prior guidance stated the primary window was Sep 28–30; no need for calls Fri–Sun because “nothing happened” yet.
- Tone: Firm and cautionary. Tony emphasized they only pass along information; they do not control outcomes or timelines. If listeners cannot accept uncertainty, he suggested they stop listening.
- Transparency: Reiterated that intel comes from their sources (including bank contacts); details can change hour-by-hour. Governmental, military, and banking processes are complex and opaque by design.
Scam Alerts and 800-Number Guidance
- Multiple new “guru” accounts and fake TNT/RayRen98 sites are charging $200–$300 for an “800 number.” Tony: the 800 number will be free to everyone and will be broadly disseminated, including posted on X so even those outside TNT will have access.
- Advisory: Do not pay anyone for the 800 number. TNT plans to limit membership in any new site to avoid disruptive behavior, focusing on peer partnership and information-sharing (no “babysitting”).
Current Status and Expected Window
- Main window unchanged: Sep 28–30 was the stated lookout period communicated to contractors (e.g., “Airbus” mentioned as an example). Tony’s best expectation remains Wed night/Thu morning (Sep 30/Oct 1), aligning with:
- Iraq’s planned assertion of full sovereignty on Sep 30.
- Oct 1–Oct celebrations of sovereignty.
- Readiness indicators cited:
- Reports that coalition/military personnel are now out of Iraq (freeing Iraq to announce sovereignty).
- Bank readiness measures: all branch managers (example: a cited bank) called in at 6:00 a.m.; weekend reconciliation completed; internal meetings held; similar 6:00 a.m. call-ins planned for the next day.
- “It could go any time” if decision-makers choose to launch.
- Conflicting signals/uncertainty:
- Some sources expected Monday morning activity; the “feds” were cited as believing Monday could be the start.
- Tony repeated that a single comment or late change can push things 24–48 hours.
- Tony’s characterization: core processes “went live” two months ago and some funds moved, but public participation is gated; over the last three weeks, select exchanges of large dinar holdings allegedly occurred (he claims over 100 million IQD per client in several instances).
Control, Governance, and Clearing Mechanics
- Who decides? Tony asserted that neither CIA, UN, IMF, nor individual banks control “the button”; they are “all waiting,” and at points suggested this could be tied to a political go-ahead (“until Trump say they can go”)—presented as his belief/intel, not confirmed fact.
- USD clearing: Even after Iraq’s sovereign declaration, Tony stressed USD flows for international settlements will still clear through New York and the Federal Reserve. Caller concern about Iraqi citizens’ perception was addressed: most citizens focus on their domestic currency and CBI actions, not USD clearing mechanics.
Banks’ Posture and Select Activity
- Banks (examples cited: Wells Fargo, Chase) are “ready,” with procedures and staff aligned; Tony claims bankers told him he’s the only guru they listen to (feedback cited from Chase and Wells contacts).
- Selective payouts: Tony suggested Chase has been paying select clients, with Wells potentially following, reflecting growing internal confidence. He also noted some days saw payouts and other days did not (e.g., “paid Saturday, not Sunday or Monday”), indicating staggered activity before full public go-live.
Currencies in Focus
- Iraqi dinar (IQD): central subject of the RV timeline.
- Vietnamese dong (VND) and “rupia” (interpreted as Indonesian rupiah, IDR): mentioned as included by a bank contact who confirmed what currencies they were acknowledging that day.
- Venezuelan bolívar (VES, various series): highlighted opportunity; details below.
- Zimbabwe (ZIM): no fresh update; Tony still thinks it will go, but flagged uncertainty. He has urged hedging via Venezuelan bolívar regardless of ZIM’s inclusion timing.
“IMF Trade Opportunity” via Banks
- Listener asked: “22% a month, 33% a year only at Wells?”
- Tony’s clarification:
- He referred to an “IMF trade opportunity” framework banks are echoing—cited figures were 22% and 33% per year (Tony corrected the “per month” part from the listener’s question).
- Status: Confirmed hearing it from Wells Fargo contacts for those who have exchanged. Expectation is other banks may offer similar structures; advised to check with your wealth manager and compare offers.
- Decisioning principle: Know your numbers. If Wells pays monthly at double-digit annualized rates, think carefully before moving funds to an institution offering lower single-digit returns.
Venezuelan Bolívar (VES) Deep Dive and Math
- Series and equivalence (Ray’s explanation):
- “Soberano” vs “Digital” series are both still in use (as they described it). Ray stated: 1 “Digital” ≈ 1,000,000 “Soberano.” All are bolívar; denomination series differ.
- Market pricing examples (as discussed, illustrative only):
- They cited seeing offers where a single 100-Digital note (which they equated to 100 million Soberano) was priced around $0.97.
- Simultaneously, some sites list 1,000,000 Soberano for a similar ~$0.97–$0.99, creating potential buyer confusion/arbitrage. Tony warned dealers raise prices immediately after TNT calls due to demand spikes.
- Rate reference used on the call:
- Tony cited a “rate today on the VES” around 0.00117 USD per 1 VES (expressed conversationally as “point zero zero one seven-ish” and summarized as “about $1,170 per million”). There was momentary confusion in wording, but they settled on “~$1,170 per 1,000,000.”
- Their thesis: If sanctions are lifted and the currency becomes readily exchangeable at that rough rate, buying large face values extremely cheaply (per their cited retail pricing) could yield outsized returns.
- Warnings and practical notes:
- Dealers may immediately reprice after mentions on-air; TNT does not endorse or promote any vendor.
- Denomination literacy matters: a “100 Digital” note is not the same as “1 million Soberano” unless you understand the series equivalence. Misreading the series can lead to significantly different exposures.
- Dave’s macro view: If the US is engaging Venezuelan oil, it’s unlikely the US would keep that trade on a restricted/illiquid currency indefinitely—implying Venezuela’s currency needs broader activity/convertibility for commercial logic to hold.
Additional Q&A Highlights
- Music ID: The closing song historically used—“I Believe (Today)” by James Fortune; Zacardi Cortez is cited as the lead vocalist on that recording.
- Rico’s VES note question (2020 series): Ray confirmed both Soberano and Digital series remain viable to his understanding; denominations and conversions are series-dependent but “it’s all bolívar.”
Host Commentary on Community Behavior and Expectations
- Tony criticized detractors and “new gurus” spreading misinformation or monetizing access with fake sites.
- “Hurry up and wait”: Military-style expectation management—be ready, then wait for the green light. He underscored frequent last-minute changes as normal in these processes.
- He joked about exchanging before doing another call once the 800 number arrives, then clarified he was kidding to avoid misinterpretation by other commentators.
Key Takeaways
- Timing: No change. The most credible window from their intel remains Wed night/Thu morning aligning with Sep 30 (Iraq sovereignty declaration) into Oct 1 (celebrations). Could slip or go early; day-to-day changes are possible.
- Control: Decision appears political/strategic, not in the hands of any single institution, per Tony’s view.
- Banks: Procedures are ready; managers called in early; some selective payouts reported by the hosts. Expectation is broad movement soon, but not guaranteed by any single signal.
- 800 number: Will be free and widely shared (including on X). Do not pay for access on third-party sites.
- VES: Potential opportunity anchored on series equivalence, current indicative rates cited on the call, and sanctions/capital flow assumptions. Execution risk remains high; verify series and pricing carefully. Dealers may amplify spreads post-hype.
- ZIM: No new confirmation; still possible. Hosts advise hedging via VES regardless.
- Post-exchange products: Evaluate bank-offered yield programs carefully (e.g., 22%/33% yearly figures were discussed); compare institutions and terms.
Actionable Considerations (Per Hosts’ Guidance; Do Your Own Due Diligence)
- Stay prepared through the Sep 30/Oct 1 window; be mentally ready for short-notice changes.
- Ignore/pay no one for the 800 number; rely on official TNT channels (X) for dissemination.
- If considering VES: understand the series (Soberano vs Digital) and the implied conversion (per Ray’s explanation: 1 Digital ≈ 1,000,000 Soberano). Confirm current market rates and dealer pricing before purchases.
- After exchange: Compare wealth-management offers across banks; know the true annualized returns and liquidity terms before moving funds.
Uncertainties and Risks Acknowledged by the Hosts
- Hourly/daily changes: a single policy or process tweak can add 24–48 hours or more.
- Not all cited intel can be independently verified publicly; the call reflects the hosts’ sources and interpretations.
- Market/pricing dynamics around VES are fluid; retail availability and spreads may change rapidly following public mentions.
Closing
- Nothing has “stopped”; hosts, banks, and listeners are in “ready” status awaiting the final push. Tony’s baseline remains Wed night/Thu morning; if it happens earlier, “let’s go.” The sign-off urged listeners to stay calm, avoid scams, and remain “super fantastic” while they wait.
