Dev Supercycle on Solana w/ DWBH
The Spaces captures a first meeting between Naheed (Nano Guild) and DW (Don’t Worry, Be Happy, “DWBH”) to explore collaboration. They confirm private-beta access to DWBH via MCO’s Telegram. Naheed introduces Nano Guild’s gamer-pay model and their streamer-friendly title, Nano Neighbors, and seeks to short gaming tokens and test DWBH live on-stream. DW, a former TradFi professional, explains DWBH’s permissionless shorting pools on Solana built on an inverse bonding curve: as a token pumps, short credits get cheaper; when it reverts, returns accelerate toward the origin, delivering built-in leverage without liquidation. Two pool types exist—Berserker (24h) and Infinite—with creator fees geared toward AUM rather than raw volume. They debate ethics and market dynamics (shorting vs manipulation, bots withdrawing liquidity, contrived markets, multi-wallet bundling), and discuss future features: a launchpad with simultaneous long/short at token genesis, API access, and treasury use cases where devs responsibly short their own tokens. Action items include onboarding Nano Guild to the beta, sharing links and a Space summary, coordinating a test stream, and building product integrations together.
Nano Guild x Don't Worry, Be Happy (DWBH) Twitter Spaces – Summary and Notes
Participants
- Neheed (Nano Guild): Host; founder/operator of Nano Guild and gaming initiatives, including the streamer-friendly game Nano Neighbors and a traditional gaming studio (referenced as “Studio Bit”).
- DW (Don’t Worry, Be Happy): Co-host; former TradFi professional; representative of DWBH shorting platform currently in private beta.
- MCO: Connector/coordinator facilitating Telegram access to DWBH private beta and cross-community coordination.
- Secret: Community member with a large gamer network, present in chat.
Access, Logistics, and Context
- DWBH access: Private beta with ~250 testers on Telegram; invite-only via MCO. Interested parties share their Telegram handle to be added.
- Spaces logistics: Difficulty using the “Jumbo Tron” feature (likely iOS-only) to pin content; links and screenshots shared via replies.
- Upcoming collaboration: Plan for a larger Spaces/stream; test-run with friendlies coordinated by MCO; intent to produce a written summary from this session to share in replies.
Nano Guild: Vision and Operating Model
- Community and incentives: Nano Guild pays participants to play its games, leave reviews, and potentially build their own apps/games over time. Emphasis on organic growth.
- Game product: Nano Neighbors is streamer-friendly; plan to showcase live in future Spaces/streams (overlaying gameplay with on-chain app usage).
- Growth approach: Web3 lowers user acquisition costs versus traditional gaming; aims to attract gamers from legacy guilds (e.g., Axie Infinity-era communities) and fund them to play and review.
- Guild ethos and education: Aspirations to be a guild that also teaches development (scholarships and upskilling).
- Strategic interest: Keen to short gaming tokens they view as weak; potentially launch “bags apps” for games and short them concurrently to create aligned incentive structures.
DWBH: Platform Overview and Positioning
- Core function: Permissionless shorting of Solana tokens (meme coins and other tokenized assets) via pooled instruments that track an inverse of the token’s price dynamics.
- Listing flow: Users paste a token’s contract address (CA) into DWBH to spin up a short pool. Two pool types:
- Berserker Pool: 24-hour lifespan; designed for rapid pump-and-dump dynamics; at expiry, trading ceases and balances return to wallets.
- Infinite Pool: Ongoing pool for tokens with longer lifespans; can coexist or follow after Berserker pools.
- Economics: Pools use an inverse bonding curve. As the underlying token’s market cap rises (on the long side), credits in the short pool become cheaper; as it falls, returns accelerate toward the origin point. This creates built-in leverage-like behavior without standard liquidation mechanics.
- Liquidity context: DWBH leverages the AMM/liquidity paradigm seen across Solana (e.g., Meteora as liquidity provider; pump-style contracts that mint tokens with bonding curves and managed pools). DWBH conceptually “flips” this mechanism to build inverse pools.
Shorting Mechanics and Technical Details
- Inverse bonding curve: Early entry on the short side benefits as the price moves back toward its origin. Example: Short entry at $10M market cap; if price rises to $20M, later entrants buy short credits cheaper and can hold a larger share of the short pool. When price dumps back toward $10M, their returns can be materially greater than 1x due to the curve’s acceleration near the origin.
- Positions and take-profit: Users can accumulate multiple entries at different levels and set built-in take-profit targets. DWBH has an Oracle monitoring take-profits across participants.
- Concurrency and atomicity: Platform handles complex calculations for hundreds of users per pool—positions, varying entry points, and take-profit execution—in an ordered, atomic manner.
- Fees and creator rewards: Indicative pool creation fees—$5 for Berserker, $20 for Infinite. Considering creator rewards tied to AUM (assets under management) snapshots rather than raw trading volume to discourage bot wash-trading.
- Roadmap: Considering an API for third-party integrations; future plan to add a Launchpad and native “long” capability so new tokens launch with both long and short options available from day one.
Market Dynamics and Ethics: Key Debate
- Does shorting harm markets?
- Neheed: Concerned shorting/futures may contribute to negative market outcomes; cites the “Penguin” meme coin that hit ~$150M before crashing and wonders if shorting accelerated its fall.
- DW: Strongly disagrees that shorting inherently causes market problems. Short positions don’t directly force sales in the underlying; at most, they influence sentiment. The price moves when market participants choose to buy/sell.
- Manipulation vs contrived markets vs normal microstructure:
- DW’s definitions:
- Market manipulation: Intentionally faking buys/sells to cause price changes and profit from those moves (e.g., if an exchange “internally” executes phantom trades to trigger liquidations).
- Contrived market: Not illegal; large players coordinate to achieve preferred entry levels without violating manipulation laws.
- Normal order-book behavior: Bots withdrawing liquidity during sharp moves causes “wicks of destiny”—deep, momentary spikes where price hits the nearest resting order and quickly reverses. This is not manipulation; it reflects how bot-driven liquidity behaves, especially on weekends.
- Binance example: DW references an incident framed as an “algorithm problem.” If backend activity faked sell pressure without real on-chain volume, that would be manipulation. Otherwise, large bot liquidity withdrawals can explain extreme wicks and cascades.
- DW’s definitions:
- Multi-wallet bundling and rug checks:
- Neheed: Draws the ethical line at actors obfuscating with many wallets and smoothing pre-bonding curves to trap retail.
- DW: Notes devs now bundle wallets right before “graduation,” defeating early rug checks/bubble maps that appeared clean initially. Result: sudden dumps after passing basic due diligence.
- Shorting advantage: DWBH short pools can benefit when such bundling signals imminent nukes; users don’t need to perfectly police wallet clusters if they’re positioned for downside moves.
- Treasury management and issuer shorting:
- Neheed: Asks whether it’s ethical for a team to short its own token; they already buy back tokens and provide DLMM liquidity.
- DW: No ethical issue; analogous to buying back at cheaper prices. Teams can hedge downside via shorts, then recycle profits into buybacks or treasury. Having both long and short access from inception creates more balanced, sustainable price discovery.
- A balanced meme market thesis:
- DW: Enabling profit on both sides extends token lifecycles; KOLs can advise late entrants to short rather than FOMO long at high caps, then roll short profits into the token on dips. Real traders focus on making money both ways, not only chasing green candles.
Use Cases and Collaboration Ideas
- Gaming tokens: Nano Guild is eager to short gaming coins perceived as weak; sees this as a truth-testing mechanism akin to Polymarket’s “market for truth.”
- “Bags” meta: Neheed notes culture on Solana of vamping exes and launching coins is here to stay (e.g., after “Ralph”); DW argues this recycling becomes healthier if downside is tradable.
- Streaming format: Plan to stream gameplay (Nano Neighbors and other titles), use DWBH live, and overlay “alpha sharing” on-chain app usage—the gameplay sits above the taskbar with active trading/shorting demos.
- Community coordination: MCO will assemble friendlies for setup testing; shared wallet will be funded from fees/revenue to actively engage on-stream.
Practical How-To (DWBH Short Pools)
- Identify target: Select a hyped Solana meme/token you believe is late-stage or overvalued.
- Create pool:
- Paste CA into DWBH.
- Choose pool type: Berserker (24h) for fast pump/dumps; Infinite for longer-lived assets.
- DWBH fetches token metadata and ties an inverse short pool to the token’s price.
- Trade workflow:
- Enter short credits (cheaper the higher the token pumps, more expensive as it dumps toward origin).
- Set take-profit thresholds; DWBH Oracle monitors and executes atomically across pool participants.
- Manage multiple entries across levels; pool reconciles balances at expiry (Berserker) or continues (Infinite).
Risks, Considerations, and Best Practices
- Rug mechanics evolve: Devs can pass early checks and bundle later; vigilance and continuous monitoring are essential if longing.
- Bot-driven liquidity: Expect violent wicks when bots pull orders; not necessarily manipulation but can liquidate overlevered positions.
- Sentiment vs fundamentals: Shorting influences sentiment; it does not force sales in the underlying. Be mindful of herd reactions to visible large short positions.
- Pool selection: Use Berserker for novelty pumps likely to die within 24h; Infinite for established tokens with recurring cycles.
- Ethics and disclosures: Teams using shorts for treasury management should consider transparent communication to reduce community friction and build trust.
Product Roadmap and Feature Outlook (DW)
- API: Potentially opening programmatic access so builders can integrate DWBH pools into custom apps.
- Launchpad + Long: Plan to add a launchpad and native long option; future tokens can launch with symmetric long/short instruments available from inception.
- Creator rewards: AUM-based snapshots to reward pool creators while discouraging wash-trading.
Action Items and Next Steps
- Access: Neheed to DM MCO with Telegram handle; Nano Guild members to join DWBH private beta.
- Testing: MCO to coordinate a friendlies group for a dry run—stream Nano Neighbors, demo DWBH, test overlays/workflow.
- Content: Neheed to produce a Space summary and share in replies for broader circulation.
- Collaboration: Explore shorting of selected gaming tokens; consider creating “bags apps” aligned with DWBH pools.
Key Takeaways and Highlights
- DWBH introduces a practical, permissionless shorting primitive for Solana tokens via inverse bonding curves and pooled credits.
- Two pool types—Berserker (24h) and Infinite—fit different token lifecycles; fees are low and creator rewards may be AUM-based.
- Built-in take-profit Oracle and atomic execution handle complex multi-user, multi-level positions.
- Shorting does not inherently manipulate prices; market microstructure (bots/liquidity removal) explains extreme wicks. Ethical borderline lies more with hidden bundling and wallet obfuscation.
- Balanced markets (long + short from launch) can reduce FOMO blow-offs, extend lifecycles, and enable sophisticated treasury management.
- Nano Guild plans to merge gaming, streaming, and live on-chain interaction—using DWBH as a sentiment and truth-alignment tool for gaming tokens.
