Dinar Update call 6-4-26
The Spaces features hosts Tony and Raymond (Ray) discussing the long-anticipated foreign currency RV/revaluation, with Tony repeatedly asserting that “it’s done,” rates are loaded, and global bankers are meeting in Washington, D.C. to finalize rollout. Tony claims a planned 2:00 pm announcement slipped but says the day isn’t over and banks are preparing weekend hours, with reports of exchanges already occurring in Iraq. He warns participants that regulators will be monitoring flows, that suspicious outbound transfers can trigger account shutdowns, and emphasizes avoiding illegal “structuring.” A major focus is post-exchange banking strategy: leave a significant portion on deposit for 2–10 years to access a bank/IMF platform offering monthly yields, and negotiate an annual rate on funds not locked in. Q&A covers: whether authorities know who bought currencies (they do via prior reporting), gifting to family (allowed), potential for rates above prior benchmarks for some, which banks to use (all will compete; Wells Fargo foundation bank, Chase international), handling cash needs via a wealth manager, NDA cautions, and multiple currencies (dinar, dong, zim, bolívar) still included. The call closes with a member describing high negotiated returns and reminders to follow compliance rules.
TNT Call Summary — June 4, 2026: RV status, banking oversight, exchange logistics, and post-RV strategies
Participants and roles
- Ray (host; often referenced as Ray/Raymond/RayRen98): Moderates, adds compliance guidance (especially on structuring/FinCEN), fields questions.
- Tony (co-host): Primary source of “status” updates on RV timing, bank meetings, rates being “loaded,” and post-exchange strategies (IMF platform, negotiation).
- Tish (support/sidekick, off-mic): Provides back-channel support to listeners; referenced by Tony.
- “Baby’s mom” (admin/moderator, off-mic): Communicates solutions to members’ account/registration issues.
- Listeners/callers:
- “Total Health” (question on a $100 payment/registration issue)
- “Create Art” (questions on tracking buyers, gifting legality, rates/currencies, bank selection)
- Reggie (Venezuelan 500 note question)
- “Best Lady” (CBI timing, cash withdrawal process, negotiation of monthly vs. annual terms)
- “Get A Dream” (asked about Iraqi citizens’ exchanges; Tony declined specifics)
- Carl (audio difficulties)
- Unnamed friend/caller (reported personal high-yield terms, used as anecdotal example)
Executive overview
- Status/timing: Tony repeatedly stated “it’s done,” asserting rates are already loaded in bank systems (showing as dashes) and that multiple global banking meetings are underway in Washington, D.C. He claimed rollout was targeted for 2:00 pm today but slipped; he still expects activation tonight/tomorrow and anticipates people could be in banks by Saturday morning. He also claimed exchanges are already occurring in Iraq.
- Governance/oversight: They emphasized that authorities and banks will monitor money flows closely, especially cross-border transfers and suspicious activity, referencing a recent announcement by Trump enabling shutdowns of accounts tied to nefarious flows. Ray gave an extended warning about “structuring” to avoid reporting thresholds—illegal and risky.
- Banking logistics: All major banks (Wells Fargo, Chase, Bank of America, Citi) are expected to participate; Wells Fargo is positioned as the “foundation bank” for domestic exchanges, with Chase handling international. Banks will be competitive, may require NDAs for rates above market/forex, and plan to work through the weekend to process appointments.
- Rates/offerings: Tony said “rates are loaded” and multiple currencies long discussed in the community remain in scope. Some rates may be “higher than 28.50” per prior expectations (he avoided further detail). He highlighted a post-exchange product he called an “IMF platform” with monthly yields (claims of 10–30% per month) tied to leaving funds on long-term contracts (extended to 10 years). He encouraged negotiating an annual rate on the portion not locked up for the monthly program.
- Practical guidance: Avoid structuring, plan cash through your wealth manager (e.g., pre-scheduled monthly cash disbursement), prefer traceable methods (cards, wires, checks), and be ready for NDAs. He suggested watching the CBI site within the next two hours as a signal, and he expects 800 numbers and appointments to follow quickly.
RV status and timing
- “Done but delayed”:
- Tony stated multiple times “it is done” and has been for 48–72+ hours, asserting a “hard date and time” was missed earlier this week. He said funds have been moved and systems are ready, but one person is “dragging his foot.”
- Named hold-up: Tony explicitly attributed the hold-up to Trump, while indicating many are asking “why.”
- Meetings in D.C.: He said bankers from around the world are in Washington, D.C., meeting yesterday and today; the meeting was still ongoing during the call. He speculated they might want to go live while all parties are together.
- Iraq/Iran/“war-not-war” context:
- Tony’s view: No real “deal” was ever intended; perception had to be managed before “reality” manifests. He tied timing to Middle East developments, recent bombings, and a narrative of “retaliations” escalating justification.
- Oil-dollar alignment: He claimed money movements/adjustments occurred to pull commodities/oil back onto the U.S. dollar and to reverse momentum away from non-dollar systems, with part of the D.C. meetings focused on this.
- Operational cues Tony gave:
- Rates are loaded in bank systems (currently shown as dashes pending release).
- Possible activation after U.S. bank close or upon conclusion of D.C. meetings.
- He expects people “in banks by Saturday morning,” possibly sooner if 800 numbers post.
- He asserted Iraqi citizens are exchanging now; he declined to share details when pressed.
- He advised checking the CBI website within the next two hours for signs.
Oversight, compliance, and monitoring
- Monitoring and possible account shutdowns:
- Tony referenced online reports about Trump authorizing shutdowns of bank accounts. His interpretation: targeting nefarious activity and prohibited-country flows, not ordinary participants acting lawfully.
- He warned that flows leaving the country and any suspicious patterns will be monitored.
- Structuring warning (Ray):
- Definition: Breaking up transactions to avoid reporting thresholds (e.g., the $10,000 CTR threshold) is illegal.
- Consequences: Even suspicion by a teller can trigger a report; accounts can be frozen or closed, and you may have to prove innocence after the fact, which can take years.
- Recommendation: Don’t attempt to “fly under the radar.” Use transparent, traceable methods.
- KYC/records of currency buyers:
- Tony said authorities/banks “know everyone who bought” via banks and online sellers, because it was reported. What they do not necessarily know: all subsequent gifting recipients.
- Gifting: Tony said gifting currency to family is not illegal.
Banking logistics, NDAs, and competitive dynamics
- Participating banks:
- Wells Fargo (foundation bank for U.S. exchanges), Chase (international), plus Bank of America and Citi; all expected to compete for deposits and offer comparable packages.
- Weekend operations: Banks are working Saturday and Sunday in anticipation of exchanges.
- Appointments and NDAs:
- Expect 800 numbers for scheduling.
- NDAs likely required for any rate above standard forex rates; Tony expects banks won’t have special access to police NDA breaches through community systems, but individuals who go public with exact rates could still be traced through public media posts.
- Bank choice guidance:
- Longstanding relationships (e.g., 30+ years with BofA) should help. With significant holdings, one can seek offers from multiple banks; expect competitive terms.
Rates, currencies, and “IMF platform” yields (as claimed by speakers)
- Included currencies:
- When asked, Tony affirmed the basket long discussed still applies, including “AG checks,” “Dom,” “Zim,” and “Dinar Zim” (terminology as used by the caller) and indicated rates are “loaded.” He also responded “Yes” when asked if a “500 Venezuela” note would be exchanged.
- Rate levels:
- Tony suggested some people may see higher than “28.50” (prior community figure), but he avoided further detail. He reiterated that rates are in systems as dashes and ready to push live.
- “IMF platform” and deposit contracts:
- Contract duration: Extended to 10 years (from earlier talk of five years).
- Eligibility: Tony claimed “everyone” who leaves a portion of funds at the bank can be placed onto an IMF-linked platform that pays monthly.
- Monthly yields: Tony cited ranges like 10–30% per month for large depositors, calling these “ridiculous” (in a positive sense) for millionaires and billionaires. Specific offers he described as dependent on deposit size, tenure with the bank, and bank-specific criteria.
- Negotiation strategy proposed by Tony:
- Leave a substantial portion (e.g., 60–80%) with the bank under the 10-year monthly program.
- For the portion not left in the 10-year program, negotiate the “same rate” but on an annual basis (not monthly) for that remaining balance.
- Re-deposit the monthly payouts into a regular account and negotiate an annual rate on those proceeds as well.
- Illustrative math (Tony’s example): On $10M total, leave $8M under a 20% monthly program; monthly payout ~$1.6M, or ~$19.2M/year, effectively doubling in ~one year, then compounding over ten years.
- Anecdotal caller report: One caller claimed to have negotiated very high returns (e.g., 25% monthly on a portion and ~33% yearly on another), projecting ~$14M/month on his base and ~$168M/year, with multi-year re-ups. These statements were presented as his personal experience and used by Tony to argue such outcomes are “real” in his circle.
Practical money movement and access
- Cash withdrawals:
- Do not make frequent small withdrawals attempting to avoid reports; that’s “structuring.”
- Preferred method: Instruct your wealth manager to schedule a fixed monthly cash disbursement (e.g., $100,000–$200,000/month) to cover any cash-based philanthropy or personal needs, so the bank expects and documents it properly.
- For everyday spending and large purchases: Prefer credit cards, wires, and checks to maintain clear audit trails.
Specific Q&A highlights
- Total Health (payment issue):
- Problem: A $100 charge/registration became unavailable after a bank card reissue.
- Tony’s response: No registrations accepted since Sep/Oct last year; he previously instructed members to initiate chargebacks because funds were frozen, and most processors allow six months. He said “Baby’s mom” already provided the fix and that he cannot help at this late date.
- Create Art:
- Tracking buyers: Yes, purchases were reported; gifting is legal.
- Taxes: Tony denied mentioning taxes in this call.
- Currencies and rates: All previously discussed currencies still “going,” and rates are “loaded.”
- Bank selection: BofA, Wells Fargo, Chase, Citi all expected to compete; Wells is the foundational U.S. bank. With significant holdings, expect a “nice reception” anywhere.
- Reggie:
- “500 Venezuela” note: Tony answered “Yes,” it will be exchanged.
- Best Lady:
- CBI timing: Tony said to check CBI within the next two hours for signs; expects exchanges to show before forex in this case.
- Monthly vs annual negotiation: Tony reiterated the strategy—lock a large tranche into the monthly platform; negotiate annual rates on the rest and on monthly proceeds deposited into a second account.
- Cash access: Use wealth manager to schedule monthly cash; keep relationships cordial and transparent.
- Get A Dream:
- Iraqi citizens exchanging: Tony claimed yes but declined operational details when asked about the nature of the notes being exchanged.
Security, rules, and behaviors to avoid
- Do not structure transactions to avoid reporting thresholds—illegal and high risk.
- Avoid patterns that appear suspicious (e.g., frequent, alternating cash withdrawals).
- Expect monitoring of cross-border flows; avoid sending funds to prohibited jurisdictions.
- Anticipate NDAs for non-forex rates; do not post precise rates publicly to avoid enforcement scrutiny.
Expected near-term steps (as stated by hosts)
- Watch for:
- End of D.C. bankers’ meetings; potential go-live after banks close or while meetings are ongoing.
- Possible 800 numbers and appointment scheduling rolling out quickly; aim is to have people in banks by Saturday morning.
- CBI rate changes in the next few hours as a tell.
- Be prepared:
- Choose a primary exchange bank but plan to solicit competing offers.
- Decide the percentage of proceeds you’re prepared to leave at the bank on long-term (up to 10-year) contracts.
- Prepare negotiation targets for monthly and annual rates, and plan cash needs with your wealth manager to avoid compliance pitfalls.
Open items and uncertainties
- No confirmed public activation time; the earlier “hard time” of 2:00 pm slipped.
- Content of the D.C. meetings not fully disclosed; timing could shift again.
- Claims of Iraqi in-country exchanges were not detailed.
- Rates and exact product terms will vary by bank and customer profile; expect NDAs to restrict sharing specifics once executed.
Tone and context notes
- The hosts framed the moment as “tough love” and “boot camp” for sudden wealth, emphasizing discipline and compliance.
- Tony reiterated a personal philanthropic plan (e.g., giving $100,000/month in cash to people in need), using it to illustrate the value of pre-scheduled cash processes.
- They anticipate little future discussion after activation as members become occupied with deployments and projects.
