Kubo's Lore Episode 2 🧩| Live Discussion & Insights with Special Guest Cloud & z0ke |

The Spaces features an interview-led, weekend format hosted by Kubo with special guest Zoke (co-host), joined later by Mist, LV, Owen, Sweeney, Banks and others. The discussion centers on how each entered crypto/Web3, practical “trenching” (memecoin trading) tactics on Solana, tool stacks (Loop, Axiom, gmgn, Photon, Pump.fun, Deckscreener, Phantom), and risk controls. Zoke details a three-year trading journey starting at age 15, emphasizes taking 3–6 months to learn before deploying real capital, starting small on new pairs, and using community/dev signals, liquidity/FDV/fee checks, bundler thresholds and dev-holder percentages to filter coins. The group compares platforms (strong preference for Loop’s social/UI/safety features; mixed-to-negative experiences with Axiom and Telegram bots), discusses wallet safety (multiple wallets, stealth mode), and how to find signal via cabals (private trading groups) and networking. Macro views include a currently soft market impacted by geopolitics and economy, with expectations of a 6–12 month rebound for Solana. The session closes with live calls, candid banter, and an invite to a builders’ Discord focused on safer, more informed participation.

Kubo’s Lore — Episode 2 (Recorded, Easter Sunday)

Session format and purpose

• Host: Kubo. Format is a weekend, recorded, interview-first Space featuring a guest’s “lore” (how they got into crypto/Web3, their methods, and advice). After the interview, the mic opens for broader community discussion.
• Technical note: X/Twitter Spaces was buggy early on (cohost invites, speaker elevations). The host reiterated the show’s premise multiple times for late joiners.

Participants and roles

• Kubo (Host): Curates the session, prompts topics, shares occasional trading experiences, and introduces tools (notably loot.gg) and community initiatives.
• Zoke (Primary guest; also referred to as “Zoe/Zilk”): 18-year-old Solana memecoin trader; started trading at ~15.5, heavy focus on new pairs and dev networks; cohosted this episode.
• Mist (Speaker): Trader who has used Axiom and loot.gg; provides comparisons and user feedback on platforms; dislikes Telegram bot trading.
• LV (Speaker): Entered Web3 via airdrops in 2024; shifted to memecoin trading; shares a honeypot cautionary tale and advice on mentorship/insider networks.
• Owen (Speaker): On/off crypto participant since high school; moved to Solana trenches in 2023; emphasizes team/cabal trading and safety.
• Sweeney (Speaker): In crypto since ~2013/14; BNB era (2016–2018), now on Solana; trenches full-time; uses GMGN and dev/wallet tracking.
• Banks (Speaker): Community regular; shares a personal health scare; limited trading content.
• Coke (Speaker): Builder invited by Kubo to a builders’ Discord; juggling multiple projects.
• Others: Various brief drop-ins, some bots; “Cloud” was expected but did not join during the recorded portion.

Core interview — Zoke’s path, methods, and advice

How Zoke entered crypto and learned to trade

• Initial exposure: ~5.5 years ago via his stepdad, who asked about Bitcoin, XRP, Solana, Sui, Doge, etc.
• Learning: Deep-dive over a holiday period (Christmas/New Year) with tutorials on buying/selling and market structure; opened current Twitter account; began trading at ~15.5.
• Education sources: Credits Sajad Crypto (YouTube) for fundamentals (chart patterns, liquidity, FDV, holders, dev analysis) and a ~100-video playlist focused on memecoins.

Strategy: coin selection, entries, and position sizing

• Focus: “New pairs”/recent launches; leverages relationships with devs to enter early before bundlers; typical target: ride to ~30–40k market cap for initial take-profit, keep a moonbag.
• Higher-cap plays: Prefers entries around 175–200k market cap; will “fully top loss” (tight risk) if conditions invalidate.
• Sizing: Never heavy on fresh pairs; suggests starting 0.25–0.5 SOL; if confident, 1–2 SOL max. Split exposure across multiple wallets to avoid holding a large percentage in a single address.
• Trading interface: Phone can work, but he dislikes Phantom’s mobile charts; uses DEX charting (CoinGecko, Dexscreener) and desktop tools when possible.

Due diligence checklist Zoke uses on new tokens

• Community strength and reputation: Looks for organic energy and trend fit; wary of recycled narratives.
• Bundlers: If bundler percentage >12%, he avoids.
• Dev holdings: Avoid coins where the dev holds ~3% at ~30k mcap; watches dev follower credibility; checks for identity larping and hacked accounts.
• On-chain signals: FDV, supply, liquidity, volume.
• Fees-to-market-cap sanity: As rough rules of thumb on Solana, around 15k mcap he expects ≥1.5 SOL in fees; ~30k mcap, ≥6 SOL in fees. Underpowered fees at those caps look like bundled/unnatural activity.
• Community headcount benchmarks (very rough):
  • ~15k mcap: 50–60 members
  • ~30k mcap: 90–130 members
  • ≥100k mcap: around 300 members

Sources, tracking, and copy trading

• Wallet tracking: He tracks some wallets primarily to avoid their entries (anticipating nukes). Will copytrade exactly one operator who consistently cooks low caps; otherwise avoids bots.
• Platform use: Has used Photon and Axiom sniper tools (see next section). Today, he strongly prefers loot.gg for trading plus social/calls.

Risk and resilience

• Biggest early challenge: Adapting to losses and treating them as lessons.
• Macro sensitivity: Wars and economic downturns reduce risk appetite and affect trenches; his adaptation is to accumulate quality (e.g., SOL) on drawdowns. Base-case outlook: Solana can rebound to ~160 within 6–12 months as macro improves (his opinion).

Tools and platforms discussed (pros, cons, and incidents)

loot.gg (Loop)

• Why Zoke and Mist rate it highly:
  • Social UX: Call-sharing with friends (one-click share of contract/entry), Discord/Telegram/onsite notifications.
  • Speed and workflow: Recent performance improvements; no more lag observed by speakers who used earlier versions.
  • Safety/intelligence overlays: Flags for bundlers, volume botted activity, and dev “rug history;” easy CA copy-detection/one-click chart access.
  • Customization: Host relayed that Hunter (loot.gg leadership) said users can import an Axiom-like UI into Loot (theme/layout customization).
  • Privacy: “Stealth mode” to hide your trades from trackers.
  • Referral/cashback: Zoke mentioned cashback/affiliate-style incentives exist.
  • Mobile: Mobile app in the works; normies ask for it often.

Axiom

• Zoke’s experience: Switched from Photon to Axiom because it “looked nicer” and was recommended word-of-mouth, but then reported four instances where his funds were “drained” mid-trade.
• Support interaction: Zoke says he DM’d the founder (name sounded like “Miss”), who replied they cannot control the drainer or reimburse losses but offered an “updated link” and “boosted rewards.”
• Security concerns from others: One speaker warned that Axiom’s UI/backend exposure may enable attackers to access PMS/backend and drain wallets if key handling isn’t properly secured. These were user anecdotes, not formal disclosures.
• Mist’s stance: Used to trade heavily on Axiom with good percentage kickbacks/referrals, but gradually migrated to loot.gg; would consider returning if a specific issue isn’t fixed elsewhere.

Photon

• Zoke’s big win on Photon: FAR coin trade—entered ~872k mcap, exited ~62.5m; ~60x on ~1.5 SOL stake.
• Later moved off Photon in favor of Axiom, then to loot.gg.

Other tools/flows

• GMGN: Mist found it clunky; Sweeney uses GMGN; Zoke/host use Dexscreener heavily.
• Telegram trading bots (e.g., Trojan): Mist dislikes trading inside TG; prefers platforms with integrated charts and transparency.
• Phantom: Easy onboarding but poor mobile charting per Zoke; still common for newcomers.
• Counter: Mentioned as an alternative platform; Mist considering it if an issue can be fixed.

Security and operational hygiene

• Drainers and key safety: Multiple warnings about wallet drainers; keep funds spread across wallets; avoid approving suspicious permissions; verify links; be cautious with third-party tooling.
• Honeypots: LV’s cautionary tale—$2 ballooned to a displayed ~$1.75k but was not sellable (slippage errors); contract later rugged. Lesson: check for honeypot patterns/transfer-taxes before entering.
• Identity and account integrity: Zoke highlighted a “Pepe dev” impostor via a hacked legacy account; community replies debunked it, he cut losses quickly.
• Phone vs. desktop: Owen advises not to trench on phone; use a multi-window setup (Discord/TG/X/charts) to respond faster and catch warnings in real time.
• X/Twitter policy tightening: Participants reported follower drops, suspensions, and crypto-content crackdowns; speculation that accounts pivoting into crypto may be flagged. General advice: expect stricter moderation and be careful with spamming/engagement-bait.

Networking, cabals, and reputation

• Engagement groups vs. real support: Zoke says crypto engagement groups rarely produce real support; he found genuine backing in NBA/meme Twitter subcultures.
• Cabals (private trading groups):
  • How to get in: Network on X (don’t just “GM” — build relationships, ask about others’ work, add value, be consistent). Paid and free cabals exist; credibility and track record matter.
  • Why it matters: Information flow (dev relationships, early calls, allocations/LECs), faster risk flags, and social proof.
  • Reputational risk: Kubo stressed vouching comes with responsibility—associates’ behavior can close doors. Zoke shared a situation where opportunities were withheld due to a third party’s unpaid loan; lesson is to choose associations carefully.

Market notes and live examples

• Trending tickers: “Bernie” ran from ~23–50k to multi-million mcap; “stonks” trending without clear reason; MEOW had a strong overnight move.
• In-space live call: Zoke shared a “real world assets” coin call during the session—he entered at 9–16k mcap, it quickly surged to 40–58k within minutes. He joked “hero or zero,” riding without early profit-taking.
• Philosophy: “Win some, lose some” (Sweeney); market is choppy but runners emerge daily.

Additional onboarding stories and advice

• LV:
  • Onboarding via airdrops (Notcoin-esque “tap” minings), Dogs airdrop, then memecoins.
  • Honeypot and rug experiences pushed him to learn deeper.
  • Advice to newbies: Get mentored by someone who’s proven; cultivate relationships with devs; build your X profile so devs include you in cabals and share early/more favorable allocations.
• Owen:
  • First exposure from a teacher around the SHIB run; later gatekept by friends; learned basics via Vicky Laranja (YouTube).
  • After numerous rugs, stepped back and re-entered with a better setup.
  • Advice: Do not trade alone—form a team/cabal; don’t trench on phone; keep wallets safe; network properly (be human, offer value, then propose trading together).
• Sweeney:
  • Crypto since 2013/14; BNB cycle veteran; now on Solana.
  • Trenches ~16 hours/day; uses GMGN; tracks devs/wallets with adhesive pnl; acquires SOL via Phantom or exchanges.

Community/builders update

• Kubo invited builders (e.g., Coke) to a curated, NFT-gated Discord connected to Big Steppers (a marketing agency with in-house KOLs) for:
  • Education: Degen-approachable safety/onboarding content for Web3.
  • Tools: e.g., a Polymarket memecoin trading bot.
  • Culture: “Good schizos” (builders, devs, deployers) only; no drama.

Actionable takeaways for newcomers

• Learning and pacing

  • Spend 3–6 months understanding market structure, chain mechanics, liquidity/FDV, holder distributions, and risk management before sizing up (Zoke).
  • Follow credible educators and playlists; avoid “get rich quick” mindsets.

• Trade selection and risk filters

  • Avoid coins with bundler percentage >12%.
  • Be wary if dev holds ~3%+ at small caps; scrutinize dev identity/followers.
  • Cross-check fees, volume, and market cap; mismatches can indicate bots/bundling.
  • Validate community size versus market cap; thin communities at higher caps can be red flags.

• Execution and tooling

  • Prefer desktop/multi-monitor for trenches (Discord/TG/X/charts side-by-side).
  • Use platforms that consolidate intel (loot.gg) and offer safety overlays.
  • Start with small entries (0.25–0.5 SOL; 1–2 SOL max if confident on fresh pairs).

• Security

  • Split funds across multiple wallets to limit single-point risk.
  • Beware of drainers; confirm every approval; avoid untrusted links.
  • Treat Telegram bots and shiny new front-ends with caution; keep keys segregated.
  • Don’t chase impostor accounts or hacked “OG” profiles—verify provenance.

• Social and reputation

  • Build genuine relationships; cabals can improve your signal and reduce time-to-insight.
  • Be selective about associations; vouching carries reputational and opportunity cost.

Closing notes

• This episode was recorded; the first half captured Zoke’s detailed methods; the second half transitioned into community banter, live calls, and open mic Q&A.
• Macro watch: Participants believe trenches will benefit when war/economy headwinds ease; quality accumulation on drawdowns was a recurring theme.
• Platform watch: Expect continued X/Twitter policy tightening on crypto content; anticipate follower churn and stricter anti-spam enforcement.