Last attempt today TNT
The Spaces centers on Tony and Ray updating listeners on the Iraqi dinar RV status, bank-level activity, and logistics for eventual public exchanges. Tony reports that select relationship clients with very large holdings (100M+ IQD) are being quietly exchanged by a few banks at around 5.86–5.98 USD per IQD, while higher contract rates and interest tiers remain reserved for the broader rollout via 800 numbers and designated exchange locations. They attribute delays to geopolitical uncertainty around Iran and to banks sequencing preferred clients first, stressing that the RV is done but mass access awaits official release. Recurrent guidance includes: ask for the highest rate, don’t churn currencies on electronic platforms, and prepare for NDAs. Tony also outlines post-RV risk planning (multiple banks, jurisdictions, and potential dual citizenship within 45–90 days). Callers ask about reversibility, rate parity, timeline for Iraqi citizens, and bank mechanics; hosts reiterate that public visibility (Forex) lags internal settlement rails and that 800 numbers will organize the public process. Administrative notes cover a staged pre-registration for a new TNT site with capped cohorts to manage demand.
TNT Call Summary and Structured Notes
Session overview
- Hosts: Tony (primary host/speaker) and Ray (co-host/moderator). Tony led the intel briefing and administrative updates; Ray moderated callers and emphasized boundaries on off-topic or repetitive questions.
- Format: Initial housekeeping and platform updates, followed by an extended intel brief on the RV/exchange process and geopolitical context, then Q&A with callers.
- Notable participants/callers referenced by name or handle: Mike, Spencer, Art, Freddy, “Bus Lady,” Brown Bear, Wes, “Democracy Dave” (referenced by Tony), “Baby’s mom” and Tish (Tony’s team/support), plus unnamed banker sources.
Administrative and platform updates (Tony)
- New TNT site onboarding process:
- A pre-registration email labeled “New TNT Site Pre-Registration” was sent to prior subscribers only. No public website link is active for sign-up.
- Capacity-managed onboarding: 500 people per tranche. Those who pre-registered but did not complete payment will be removed to free space for the next tranche. A new batch of pre-registration emails will go out to another group of former subscribers the following day.
- Payment methods: payment processor (debit/credit) or Zelle (recent issues reportedly resolved). If too many try at once, the processor may be locked temporarily—retry later.
- Boundaries: Tony and team cannot accommodate 60K–150K+ users. Target community size will be far smaller—Tony hinted even 10K may be too many and could be reduced further. Focus will be on people motivated to execute and learn; Tony emphasizes he is not a financial advisor.
- Support boundaries: Ray does not manage Tony’s list; do not call or text Ray about it. Tony asked members to stop texting/calling/emailing about the list during and after the call; noncompliance may result in removal (“excommunication,” jokingly).
- Future platform vision: Tony intends to build an integrated platform with his own email system and radio capability to control comms and reduce dependency on third-party services.
Core intel: RV/exchange status as reported by Tony
Status/timing:
- Tony said the RV “went through” on Friday (initial confusion about exact day, then aligned on Friday). Since then, very limited exchanges have been occurring daily at select banks.
- Who is exchanging now: strictly “relationship accounts” chosen by banks—people with long-standing, high-value banking relationships and very large holdings. Tony said every person he knows of in this tranche has a minimum of 100 million IQD (some 200–300 million+).
- Volume and pace: very low throughput. An example banker scheduled 50 appointments but completed 7 in one day. Another location processed only 3–4 in a day. It’s taking longer than anticipated per transaction.
- Geographic concentration: Tony specifically mentioned two active bank locations—one in Texas (city unspecified) and one in New York—doing exchanges daily. He stressed it’s a small number of banks and locations overall.
- Currencies included to date: only Iraqi dinar (IQD) in the most recent activity. Earlier months allegedly saw other currencies exchanged in isolated cases, but for the last week Tony says only dinar has been processed.
- Rates being paid now to relationship accounts: Tony cited $5.86 or $5.98 (variation depending on time of day). These are “forex-level” rates in Tony’s framing, not the higher/contract rates.
- Availability of funds: Those exchanging must wait ~48 hours for funds to clear; Tony reports that, so far, the funds have been available after that window.
Two-track process (Tony’s description):
- Track 1: “Who-you-know”/relationship exchanges—insiders and large holders with established banking relationships are being called by banks and processed at certain bank locations.
- Track 2: Public/high-rate exchanges via designated exchange centers (some banks will be official exchange locations; others will not). Tony says access to higher rates and preferred long-term interest arrangements (2–10 years) will be at these exchange centers.
- Disparity in staff awareness: Many front-line employees and even some branch/wealth managers are reportedly unaware or in denial. Tony noted a Chase teller saying “we don’t do it and never will,” while he claims other Chase locations are exchanging. Awareness is not uniform inside banks.
Higher rates and interest structures (Tony’s statements):
- Tony re-asserted that higher rates and 2–10 year interest structures remain “in play” but are not being offered to the current relationship tranche. Those participants are allegedly only getting the $5.86/$5.98 type outcomes.
- Tony expects that once public exchanges begin (with 800 numbers and exchange centers), the higher options will be accessible.
Public rollout mechanics:
- 800 numbers: Tony said he was told the plan still includes 800 numbers and exchange centers, and that public mass scheduling will use these numbers. He reiterated that, without 800 numbers, a broad public “first-come-first-served” bank rush is highly unlikely due to the chaos it would cause.
- Ten-day window and NDA: Tony anticipates signing an NDA. He would like to continue supporting listeners through an initial 10-day window before executing his own exchange, to share permissible guidance. Ray intends to exchange quickly and “head to the islands.”
Reasons for the delay (Tony’s perspective)
Geopolitical driver: Iran/U.S. situation.
- Tony claims “nobody knows” the exact hold-up, but multiple sources point to ongoing Iran contingencies. He suggests Trump authorized “go,” but implementation is throttled by uncertainty around imminent actions related to Iran.
- He expects “bombing”/kinetic events are probable; believes some parties are holding off to allow exchanges to begin. However, “too many things are happening off the news,” and pressure may force action.
- Tony’s war outlook: He asserts the conflict is unwinnable absent total destruction, likening it to Afghanistan’s endurance. He referenced an explanatory video (by an Asian presenter) he plans to share with listeners for a “big picture” view.
Domestic political sensitivity:
- Tony says banks expressed concern that he gives too much actionable guidance, which could lead many to demand better terms and complicate bank processes.
- He also says there is institutional concern about what recipients may do with sudden wealth in the current political environment (influence on elections and beyond). He asserts prior presidential authorization (Obama, and current authorization under Trump) means banks cannot stop the process, but they can pace/sequence it to mitigate perceived influence risks.
- Tony emphasized he is “not political” and only focused on generational wealth and philanthropy.
Bank mechanics and funding (as Tony explained)
- Tony’s justification for how exchanges can happen before public forex moves:
- Internal bank systems, back-office settlement, and interbank/treasury mechanisms are not visible to the public.
- He claims the U.S. Treasury previously moved large sums (he cited $7 trillion) to banks for RV-related purposes. Banks can internally allocate funds, then earn overnight interest on balances while paying out to clients, so they’re not “losing money.”
- Ray strongly pushed back at skepticism during Q&A, stating nonbelievers should drop off; Tony reiterated his explanation and moved on.
Iraq domestic side (Tony’s statements)
- Local/contractor visibility:
- Tony said Iraqi “street” (citizens in markets) is not yet seeing the new rate. A meeting around 1 pm the next day (local?) was anticipated to clarify next steps.
- Scheduling signals: Expectations had shifted from the 3rd to the 5th/6th. Tony suggested Friday is often a logical move-point due to the weekend/Sabbath dynamic in Iraq.
- Iraq budget pressure: Iraq wants the RV finalized to execute budget and provide citizens with the new rate. Tony reiterated “we cannot go before they go.”
Risk and compliance cautions
Electronic currency platforms (Ray):
- If you hold currency electronically, do not log in and start moving among currencies or “sightseeing.” Platforms may detect such behavior as related to RV speculation and could cancel accounts and refund balances. If you pay bills there, that’s different—just don’t switch between currencies.
Post-exchange security and contingency planning (Tony):
- Tony says his government/agency and institutional contacts (he named entities like IMF, CIA, FBI, Secret Service—transcript audio was garbled in places) are warning that “it will get worse before it gets better.”
- Steps recommended by his sources for high-net-worth safety and flexibility within 90 days:
- Obtain dual citizenship(s) and multiple passports.
- Open multiple bank accounts and relationships across multiple countries.
- Diversify assets internationally (bank deposits and real estate) across jurisdictions while wire/movement regimes are still fluid.
- Expect possible future controls on outbound capital; act early to ensure optionality.
- Tony’s stance: This is about prudent preparation, not panic. He is sharing because he feels obligated to alert the community to risks his sources are flagging.
Q&A highlights and positions
Mike (email and rate parity):
- Email subject: Look for “New TNT Site Pre-Registration.” Not everyone is in the first tranche; new batches go out later.
- Rate parity question: Tony expects one can get the best available rate if one asks for it—“ask for the highest rate available.” He recounted a case where someone accepted ~$12 per unit (transcription unclear—Tony’s point was the person failed to request the higher rate like “28.50,” so the banker only delivered what was requested). Tony underlined that knowing how to ask is crucial.
Caller asking about reversibility:
- Question: If the RV went through and exchanges started, can it be reversed?
- Tony: No. Funds are already paying out; Iraq needs it; citizens are awaiting their rate. Reversal doesn’t make sense in his view.
- On “platforms”: Tony said he himself was told he’s on a “platform all by [him]self,” implying his exchange will be sequenced later; listeners should go before him. He framed this as special handling by counterparts who know him.
Spencer (bank mechanics):
- Spencer asked how banks can pay ~$5.86–$5.98 if the rate “hasn’t changed officially.”
- Tony’s response: Back-office settlements, Treasury funds on deposit, and overnight interest allow it; public forex screens won’t show internal flows. Ray objected strongly to skeptical framing; the caller was dropped after tone escalated.
Art (bank willingness and influence concerns):
- Art asked whether banks might try to avoid “making multimillionaires” and drag the process.
- Tony: Banks can’t stop the process (presidential authorization), but they can manage the pace to reduce the risk of concentrated influence. He broadened the concern beyond elections to “a whole lot of things.”
- Art and Tony aligned on focusing on legacy-building and philanthropy.
Freddy (geopolitics and supply constraints):
- Freddy referenced multiple conflicts (Russia/Ukraine, Venezuela, etc.). Tony said these are not drivers here; RV gating relates to U.S.–Iran dynamics.
- Freddy reported a Houston physical dealer where he could no longer buy certain currencies (including dinar). Tony said that could simply be out-of-stock and, if supply has been cut, it can be a bullish signal for a rate change.
“Bus Lady” (banks’ power, citizens’ timing, 800 numbers):
- She asked whether banks have been given broad discretion; Tony affirmed relationship priority and selective calling.
- She asked if the U.S. public is delayed because Iraqi citizens haven’t started—Tony agreed “we can’t go before they go.”
- Timing: Tony’s best read—possible tomorrow for some relationship calls; broader 800 number-driven scheduling more likely Thursday/Friday.
- Confirmation: Tony reiterated 800 numbers, exchange centers, higher rates are still “in.”
Additional caller (Art, later in call):
- Basket question: He asked if multiple currencies (the “basket”) will go—Tony listed the same seven he’s referenced before (IQD, Indonesian rupiah, Zimbabwe ZIM, Afghan afghani, plus “aggro checks” and others; transcription of the list was imperfect). Tony’s view: they will go—timing not specified in detail.
Guidance, reminders, and boundaries from Tony and Ray
- Tony’s negotiating advice remains to ask explicitly for “the highest rate available,” and be prepared to discuss rate and interest structures once public exchanges begin. He acknowledged banks’ concern that his guidance gives listeners atypical leverage; he still intends to equip the community before any NDA cuts him off.
- Tony repeatedly emphasized: he is not a financial advisor. He will share what he is doing, not instruct others. Focus is generational wealth, stewardship, and helping the less fortunate—not politics.
- Ray’s moderation stance: Avoid repetitive skepticism and non-constructive challenges; respect that much back-end detail won’t be visible publicly.
Working timeline (subject to change per Tony)
- Now: Relationship exchanges in small numbers underway at a few banks; only IQD; rates around $5.86/$5.98; funds clearing in ~48 hours.
- Near-term:
- Some additional relationship-account calls may occur as early as the next morning.
- Broad public: 800 numbers and exchange center scheduling possibly Thursday/Friday.
- Iraq domestic: Tony expects an Iraqi-side step or announcement to align by Friday (could be sooner), synchronized with their weekend/Sabbath rhythm.
- Geopolitics: Tony anticipates intensified action around Iran imminently (possibly by Friday or sooner), which could influence sequencing but not, in his view, reverse course.
Actionable takeaways for listeners (as stated on the call)
- Watch for the 800 numbers and follow exchange-center instructions rather than attempting retail teller exchanges.
- If/when negotiating, explicitly request the “highest rate available” and inquire about long-term interest opportunities (2–10 years) when at an exchange center.
- If you pre-registered for the new TNT site but have not paid, complete it by tonight; otherwise you’ll be removed and the next group will be invited.
- Do not pester Ray about Tony’s list; do not flood Tony/team with texts/emails.
- If you hold currency electronically, refrain from logging in to switch between currencies or “sightseeing”; you may trigger account scrutiny or cancellation/refund.
- Begin planning for post-exchange risk management: consider jurisdictional diversification of accounts/assets and, where appropriate, explore dual citizenship and international banking relationships while transfers are straightforward.
Closing
- Tony’s bottom line: The process is moving, albeit selectively and slowly, with relationship accounts first at a few locations, and public 800-number-driven scheduling expected shortly after. Geopolitics (U.S.–Iran) is the only major external variable he repeatedly highlighted. He remains focused on guiding listeners through the lead-up to public exchanges and the initial 10-day window, subject to NDA constraints.
