Yegor vs. Bayne

The Spaces brings together Bane (31, Eastern Europe-based dating coach) and Yegor (17, US-based “Money Twitter” marketer) who reconcile a prior online spat and compare philosophies on dating, status, and online growth. They debate cold approach vs social/online methods, “quality vs quantity” in partners, and how cultural norms differ between the US and Eastern Europe (including age gaps, nightlife, and cost-of-living). Money’s role in dating outcomes is a recurring theme: Bane argues an abundance mindset—supported by solid income—improves retention and removes neediness; Yegor views Twitter as a high-ROI growth channel and shares that he designs sites and runs marketing via alternate accounts. Lifestyle topics include primal dieting, avoiding the gym, cars/status signaling, and travel across Eastern Europe. A Q&A covers overcoming approach anxiety (Bane’s step-by-step “miracles” progression), height and “staying low-key,” and why public “receipts” can backfire due to doxxing/harassment. Both outline their businesses: Bane monetizes via ebooks and private groups/coaching, while Yegor drives marketing services. They close on pronatalist views, plans to meet in Europe, and funnel optimization, with Bane teasing a new project.

Twitter Space recap: Yegor (17) x Bane (31) — dating philosophy, lifestyle, money, and Eastern Europe vs US

Participants and context

• Primary speakers:
  • Yegor (aka Igor/Yegor; Speaker 1): 17 years old, originally from Kazakhstan, raised in the US (Miami), active on “Money Twitter.” Online high school student running marketing businesses with employees; claims monthly income near ~$50k. Focuses on social media growth, lead generation, and web/design execution (often using AI), cautious about posting “receipts.”
  • Bane (Speaker 2): 31, based in Eastern Europe (references Kyiv, Moscow), runs dating/cold-approach coaching focused on “low-exposure” girls (his term for women with minimal prior dating/sexual history). Pro-natalist, says he has one daughter (6 months), aims for many children and multiple families in separate apartments. Promotes “primal” lifestyle (raw meats), avoids gym, emphasizes daytime cold approach in malls.
• Other names mentioned:
  • Mitch (Bane’s associate), briefly referenced as poised to speak later.
  • Hunter (a contact in the space), possibly a client/collaborator.
  • Adam (Money Twitter figure in Miami), and Jonathan (Romania-based, War Room-associated), discussed comparatively.
• Tone and framing: The session began with “squashing a beef” and quickly shifted into debates on dating strategies, age-gaps, lifestyle/ethics, with audience Q&A. Much of the conversation contained controversial opinions, informal language, and humor.

Backgrounds and how they met online

• Prior tension (“beef”) acknowledged. Yegor credits Bane’s ability to go viral via controversy; Bane says many beefs start in DMs and escalate.
• Yegor’s Twitter strategy: viral marketing, building followers (12–15k at age 17), lead-gen, “Money Twitter” growth; prefers not to post private dating “receipts” due to doxxing/harassment risks.
• Bane’s content strategy: posts “receipts” to show outcomes, compares his results (from cold approach/daygame) to others’ (e.g., night-game club results), uses provocation but frames it as showing “truth.”

Dating philosophies and methods

• Core split:
  • Yegor: relies on social circles, Instagram DMs, casual daytime interactions (coffee shops, street). He claims in the US some women respond to status cues (e.g., car) and “snapchat” exchange, but stresses this is for casual dating; for wives/serious partners, clubbing/night-game is suboptimal.
  • Bane: strongly advocates daytime cold approach in malls, with structured progression: approach, conversation, Instagram, texting, dates, long-term. Prioritizes “low-exposure” girls (minimal past relationships) and “quality” over quantity. Views club/night-game as producing lower-quality relationships and says his approach is more viable post-high-school when one is out of student environments.
• Age-gap norms:
  • Both note Eastern/Southern Europe has more acceptance of age gaps (e.g., 10+ years), while the US is more restrictive. Yegor emphasizes strict US legal risks, asking age early to avoid infractions.
• “Receipts” and privacy:
  • Yegor: posting couples photos led to unsolicited DMs to the girl, prefers privacy; will share privately if trust is assured.
  • Bane: considers public posting part of the lifestyle; argues creators should have a protocol to handle exposure, and the benefits outweigh the harassment.
• Quality vs. quantity and retention:
  • Bane: “Quality” girls require more effort and a different energy; he says retention is hard on low income and easier from an “abundance” mindset (comfortable finances, lifestyle certainty). He discourages “broke-and-daygame-only” unless one is a natural.
  • Yegor: agrees that higher income improves lifestyle but believes skillful marketing/social positioning can attract ample attention even at a young age.

Lifestyle, health, and status cues

• Bane’s lifestyle:
  • Diet: raw meats/eggs (“primal”), dry-aged beef, avoids gyms, works late and prioritizes coaching/content projects.
  • Car/status: claims he keeps a “low-key” profile in Moscow but drives a BMW X5M.
• Yegor’s lifestyle:
  • Travel: Riga, Warsaw, Tallinn, Latvia; prefers Eastern Europe for cost-of-living, nightlife, and social environment; says online income lets him live anywhere with a MacBook.
  • Status cues: jokes about renting high-end cars (Panamera GTS) and “revving the engine” as a low-effort attention tactic for casual US dating; maintains it’s not a wife-finding method.
• Gym debate:
  • Yegor: argues being fit helps intimacy and retention.
  • Bane: calls modern “looksmaxxing” gym culture “played out;” claims his target partners lack prior exposure so performance and metrics (duration, size) matter less to them; prefers minimal-effort intimacy and doesn’t see fitness as necessary for his strategy.

Ethics, legality, and regional differences

• US vs Eastern Europe:
  • Yegor: US social life is less vibrant late evenings; stricter legal environment regarding minors; Eastern Europe is more relaxed, affordable, and socially active at night.
  • Bane: endorses Eastern Europe as more compatible with his approach and age-gap norms.
• Controversial claims:
  • Several remarks generalized nationalities/refugees in ways that may be considered discriminatory; both referenced “slavic girls traveling” as a red flag for long-term relationships. These views are their opinions and are not endorsed.
  • Yegor and Bane repeatedly emphasized legal-age diligence in the US; Bane notes he doesn’t ask ages in Eastern Europe but acknowledges different contexts.

Pro-natalism and family goals

• Bane: promotes having multiple families, placing partners in separate apartments across cities, with a goal of “multiplying white babies” (explicit pro-natalist stance). Says he aims for ~20 children and views monogamous two-child Christian family models as suboptimal.
• Yegor: states an even more extreme personal goal (50 children), presenting it in a provocative tone, viewing Europe’s fertility rates as a crisis and advocating aggressive family formation.

Business models and monetization

• Bane:
  • Offers a book (eBook ~$29, hardcover ~$49) as philosophy primer; main revenue from coaching groups/close friends/one-on-one time, not from book sales.
  • Critiques War Room aesthetics (suits, cigars), but coaches many War Room members and sees different constraints for famous figures (harder to remain low-key for cold approach).
  • Advises focusing on finances first (e.g., ~$15–20k/month) to embody “abundance” energy.
• Yegor:
  • Provides marketing services via alt accounts and funnels; claims strong web design taste and speed (used AI tools for a recent site). Warns about conversion leakage in info funnels; offers growth-side consulting. Says he has employees and uses Telegram secret chats for sensitive comms.

Q&A highlights

• Approaching anxiety (Speaker 4):
  • Yegor gave humorous, non-serious “pickup lines,” then clarified tone. Bane discouraged gimmicks; advocates systematic cold approach and building tolerance by repeatedly going out, progressing through “miracles” (incremental milestones) from first talk to first Instagram to replies to dates.
• Height considerations:
  • Yegor asks whether one can be “too short/too tall.” Bane: very tall can draw attention (hurts low-key approach); height helps presence during approach but discretion is key. Being extremely good-looking can paradoxically trigger distrust; average looks with strong approach fundamentals can perform well.
• Fashion/brands for mall approach:
  • Bane: avoid flashy Chrome Hearts; prefer minimal, low-key designer choices (Moncler okay). Low-key presentation reduces unwanted attention and facilitates frequent approaches.
• Money and retention (Speaker 3, Polish):
  • Bane’s view: retention quality correlates with “abundance” energy more than paying for dinners or clothes; authenticity cannot be faked—lack of abundance eventually shows and harms retention.

Comparisons with other creators

• Jonathan (Romania): Bane says Jonathan focuses on night-game/holes and status; too famous to cold approach low-key.
• Adam (Miami): Yegor knows him as part of Money Twitter.

Notable claims, clarifications, and disagreements

• Car “rev and invite” tactic:
  • Yegor says this can attract casual attention in the US; Bane rejects it as a red flag and not aligned with his target demographic (prefers cautious, reserved women met during daytime).
• Intimacy metrics:
  • Bane argues his partners’ minimal prior experience means duration/size are less relevant; Yegor counters that fitness improves performance and retention regardless.

Key takeaways

• Two contrasting paradigms:
  • Yegor: youth-driven status marketing, social circles, IG-first, privacy-conscious receipts, travel flexibility, pro-fitness, and strong monetization focus.
  • Bane: Eastern Europe daygame/cold approach, “low-exposure” partner selection, pro-natalist multi-family lifestyle, raw-primal living, anti-gym, and coaching-centric revenue.
• Region matters: both agree Eastern/Southern Europe is more permissive of age gaps and offers better lifestyle-to-cost; the US environment is stricter legally and less vibrant late-night.
• Money mindset and dating: Bane emphasizes financial “abundance” as foundational for retention and confidence; Yegor demonstrates that even at 17 one can leverage marketing to grow and monetize.
• Receipts and doxxing: creators face trade-offs between proof and privacy; harassment of partners is a real risk.

Follow-ups and next steps implied

• Yegor may travel to Eastern Europe within months and suggested sharing private “receipts” with Bane via secure channels.
• Bane teased a new project related to his brand and indicated continued posting and coaching; Mitch was expected to speak pending more audience questions.
• Both expressed openness to future collaboration or at least continued dialogue despite prior “beef.”

Disclaimer

• Many views expressed were controversial, including statements about age gaps, sexual behavior, and national stereotypes. The summary reflects what was said in the space and does not endorse any unsafe, unethical, or illegal advice. Legal age and consent vary by jurisdiction; participants themselves noted US legal strictness. Readers should exercise caution and adhere to local laws and ethical standards.