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The Spaces captures a loosely structured, late‑night fan hangout led by Ashley and friends (Abel, Emiliano, Chloe, Caroline, Ada, Ben, Georgie, Nissa). The group jokes that they convened to discuss “drama,” but it’s mostly light banter about friendships, concerts, and stan culture. A dominant thread is Ashley’s devotion to the artist “Somber” (defending him from “industry plant” discourse, recounting live moments, and planning seven shows across Chicago, New York, and Brooklyn while budgeting and plotting travel logistics). They pivot often across pop fandoms: Olivia Rodrigo, Ariana Grande, Gracie Abrams, TXT, NewJeans, Chappell Roan, Benson Boone, Role Model, and more—ranking favorites, sharing top artists, and concert outfit strategies. They also set a watch‑party vibe for The Summer I Turned Pretty (Team Belly x Conrad), baking cookies and waiting for the Prime drop. Social media tactics (hit tweets, co‑hosting, follower goals), job hunts (Pizza Hut, Arby’s, wedding hall), phones for filming, and content plans run alongside cautionary chatter about rumors (a “David” murder allegation) and stan toxicity. The tone remains playful, self‑aware, and parasocial, with occasional ethical gray zones (shoplifting anecdotes, covert travel plans) surfaced then laughed off by the group.

Twitter Space Recap: fandom chatter, “drama,” concerts, and late‑night chaos

Who was in the Space and the vibe

• Core voices repeatedly referenced or self-identified: Ashley, Emiliano (introduced as Ashley’s younger brother), Abel, Chloe, Ben, Caroline, Ada, Georgie, Nissa, Claire, Kaylee, Madeline, Mason, Otto/Auto.
• Group identity and networks: several describe themselves as part of an Olivia Rodrigo stan circle (often calling it “Livy HQ” or “Olivia HQ”); some share a private group chat and treat each other as “siblings.”
• Tone and format: highly informal, rapid topic shifts, frequent inside jokes, occasional technical hiccups (accidental muting), and a recurring attempt to increase listeners (co‑host invites, pinning tweets). Despite a title about “drama,” the mood was mostly playful banter with intermittent planning for concerts, travel, and watch parties.

The supposed “drama” and social dynamics

• “Friendship breakup” drama: early on, someone says “me and Ashley have been having some issues,” but then confirms it’s resolved; they’re “going to summer together.” The “drama” is repeatedly poked at as a way to draw listeners—no real conflict unfolds in the conversation.
• Attendance anxiety: hosts worry about low join numbers, try co‑hosting and pinning posts (e.g., the “97‑year‑old diner still serves Coke the old‑fashioned way” format) to pull in more listeners.
• Group chat housekeeping: renaming, swapping icons, and glitches are discussed; they joke about adding “daughter/sisters” labels tied to their fandom roles.

Core fandom topics

• The “Somber” obsession (main thread):
  • Ashley repeatedly calls “Somber” her husband; recounts being in the pit at a New York show with sustained eye contact, seeing “Somber” at the VMAs where he waved, and planning to attend multiple upcoming dates (Chicago; New York “night 9”; two Brooklyn nights). Total sightings planned/achieved in one year: seven.
  • Defense of the artist: group rejects “industry plant” narratives and the “male Gracie Abrams” dig; they frame the hate as clout‑seeking. Ashley jokes that even if “Somber” did something unforgivable she would forgive him—a hyperbolic expression of stan devotion that others push back on lightly.
  • Comparisons: “Somber” is favorably compared to Benson Boone; someone labels Boone’s songs “not it” lyrically despite his vocal ability.
  • Ticket economics: part of “Somber’s” appeal is that tickets are “cheap,” enabling multiple shows.
• Belly/Conrad watch party (The Summer I Turned Pretty):
  • They prep to stay up for the new episode drop (“Belly Conrad party”), track release times across time zones (2 a.m. in parts of the US; afternoon in Australia), and reference last week’s episode as a filler.
  • Ship preferences: strong Belly/Conrad (vs Jeremiah) sentiment, with complaints that Belly/Jeremiah got a full arc while Belly/Conrad fans are “suffering” and making do with shorter moments. They expect this episode to deliver.
• Ariana Grande and major tour plans:
  • Ashley and others discuss upcoming Ariana shows (Kia Forum), logistics, and the sensation that it doesn’t feel “real” until everything is paid off.
  • A friend reads out Ashley’s detailed budget for multiple trips: Chicago “Somber” (Oct 2), Brooklyn “Somber” (Nov 5–6), and Ariana at the Kia Forum (with line items for ticket repayments, flights, hotels, outfits). Total needs hover in the hundreds for each run; cumulative need is significant.
  • Parental navigation: Ashley contemplates not telling her mom about flying to Chicago (no location sharing; plausible cover stories about local queuing and sleepovers). The group weighs the risks and suggests safer disclosures.
• Other artists and stan circles mentioned:
  • Olivia Rodrigo: “Livy HQ” community, jokes about OR3 “coming tomorrow/tonight” (clearly fan hype). “Olivia juicy secret” rumor cycle gets a passing mention.
  • Taylor Swift: prior massive Spaces when an album dropped; shared top Taylor tracks (“All Too Well 10‑minute,” “closure”); nostalgia for past “countdown” Spaces.
  • Gracie Abrams: several love Gracie but some feel less connected lately; one recounts an awkward NYC meetup (parasocial fan behavior cited). Sadie Jean’s fanbase is described as intense/weird by some speakers.
  • Pop and alt‑pop: Sabrina Carpenter, Tate McRae, Chapel (Chappell Roan), Madison Beer, Conan Gray, Reneé Rapp, Addison Rae, Alex Warren.
  • K‑pop: TXT (tour stop in San Jose trending; sections near barricade; bias talk for Yeonjun/Beomgyu), Stray Kids (vote battles), NewJeans (hiatus/legal drama context), Weverse references.
  • An indie/alt girl group they call “Cat side/Katsi/Catside”: members called Daniella, Megan, Laura, Sophia get named; discussion about VIP photo format (individual vs group), styles, and getting into their music.

Internet culture, virality, and AI

• Virality tactics: multiple people try crafting a “hit tweet” using a diner/Coke nostalgia template, posting Olivia Rodrigo collage content, or shameless payola within friend circles.
• AI content: AI voiceover in documentaries comes up; they also note AI cover versions of popular songs (“Right Where You Left Me,” “Can’t Catch Me Now,” and others) are proliferating.

Rumors and misinformation (handled cautiously)

• “David update account” saga: a few discuss a trending rumor that “David” may be implicated in a crime (a body allegedly found in a Tesla). The group reads a statement from a “David update” account urging restraint until facts are confirmed. Some speculate “framed allegations” based on timeline/alibi claims (performing in Michigan versus Hollywood). They joke about a future Netflix doc, while acknowledging nothing is confirmed.
• Group norms: they actively question stan rumor mills and highlight that update accounts can go “rogue,” stressing research before spreading claims.

Travel/queuing lore and concert logistics

• Queues and presales: multiple stories about meeting the same people in lines across shows, becoming friends, and queuing culture.
• Trip stacking and budgeting: one member lists out all planned trips with precise costs; others suggest infinite “money glitches” by reselling old items, saving, or picking cheaper seat tiers.
• Outfits:
  • Sourcing: fast fashion (Shein), corsets, belts, and returning items post‑concert to recoup funds; borrowing from friends’ closets.
  • Themes: waiting for artists (e.g., Chappell Roan) to announce themes; frustration when theme announcements are last‑minute.
  • One requests input for a TXT fit; consensus: re‑wear the profile pic outfit if it works, or find a dupe of the desired shirt.

Work, school, and funding the fandom

• Job hunt and applications: Pizza Hut and Arby’s apps in progress live on the Space; crafting answers about “specialized training” and customer service; one suggests highlighting community management skills from stan spaces as people skills.
• “Ops” avoidance: a few prefer to work where they won’t run into local rivals (“ops”), hence applying at less trafficked locations.
• School: some in college (part‑time schedule, mostly Tue/Thu); one in Australia mentions the HSC and tutoring; time zones shape who can stay up for episode drops.

Personal life vignettes and boundaries

• Home scenes: spaghetti and cookies are cooked mid‑Space; Ashley says it’s the first real food she’s had in ~20+ hours; complains about eating quinoa daily.
• Sibling noise: background screaming and laughter; the group jokes about “family friendly” language in the Space.
• Privacy and age:
  • They refuse to disclose a minor’s age on Spaces; warn about doxxing risks; insist only the minor can share their age.
  • A playful “deep dive” into “Shane Michael Booth” childhood photos via Pinterest leads to a caution about boundaries.

Risky anecdotes and ethical lines

• Shoplifting stories: several recount past Sephora “hauls” (Dior, etc.), some calling it an “era,” others distancing themselves and acknowledging it’s wrong/dangerous. Mentions of a Bronx Bay Plaza incident and a mall shooting scare are shared. Group sentiment trends toward “don’t do this,” with hindsight framing it as youthful poor judgment.

Lighter miscellany and running jokes

• Viral plush/toy/fashion trend: a long riff on a collectible line (variously called “Laboubs/Lafufu/Level Goose”), with colorways like “macaron,” “big energy set,” and debates about cost/availability. Takeaway: it’s expensive and polarizing; some call it “demonic,” others want a collection.
• Feet pics monetization: tongue‑in‑cheek debate—if people like feet, why not look at their own? Pure comedic filler.
• Accents and culture: members gush over an Australian accent; swap notes on Weet‑Bix and Tim Tams; joke about moving countries for the vibe.

Notable quotes/moments (paraphrased)

• “We resolved it. We’re going to summer together.” (Friendship ‘drama’ closed; early in the Space.)
• Ashley: “Somber is my husband.” “He waved at me at the VMAs.” “I’m seeing him seven times this year.”
• On industry-plant accusations: “They’re grasping at straws. He’s 19… people just want a reason to hate him.”
• Belly/Conrad: “We need a season 4 that’s just Belly; Belly/Conrad the movie.”
• Budget realism: An itemized reading of Ashley’s Chicago/Brooklyn/Ariana costs serves as a cautionary snapshot of how expensive multi‑city fandom can get.
• Ethics check: “Nothing is confirmed—don’t spread rumors.” (re: the “David” case.)

Decisions, plans, and outcomes

• Resolved: the supposed friendship “breakup” is over.
• Ongoing: retry co‑hosting/pinning strategies to grow Space attendance.
• Concrete travel plan: Ashley is committed to Chicago (Somber), New York/Brooklyn (Somber), and Ariana (Kia Forum), working out funding and parental communication.
• Work applications: at least two fast‑food/service applications were started; group crowdsourced phrasing for “skills and training.”
• Tonight’s plan: some log off to sleep or shower before the “Belly/Conrad” drop; others vow to stay up.

Frictions and consensus points

• Consensus:
  • “Somber” fandom is central to the group’s current identity; haters are dismissed.
  • Belly/Conrad > Jeremiah for many in the Space.
  • AI covers are everywhere; mixed feelings.
  • Update accounts should show restraint; fans should not spread unverified allegations.
• Frictions:
  • Some divide over Alex Warren vs “Somber” for best new artist.
  • Split feelings on Gracie Abrams’ current pull versus other emerging acts.
  • Ongoing debate about using fast fashion/returns, versus sustainability and cost.

What this Space tells us overall

• It’s a snapshot of stan culture: intense devotion to a rising male singer (“Somber”), cross‑fandom overlaps (Olivia, Taylor, TXT, etc.), and a practical obsession with logistics—tickets, travel, queues, and outfits.
• The “drama” was performative; the substance was community: troubleshooting attendance, hyping releases, trading tips, and keeping each other company late at night.
• Boundaries, ethics, and adulting pop up: from not doxxing minors to admitting past shoplifting was wrong, to writing job applications live to fund fandom goals.
• Above all, it’s friendship maintenance in real time: a rotating cast announcing departures for showers/sleep, passing the mic, and promising to regroup when the next episode drops or the next tour leg hits.