TNT DINAR UPDATE 11-17-25

The Spaces centers on Tony and Ray (RayRen98) updating the TNT community on Iraq’s post-election dynamics and the ever-shifting expectations around a potential Iraqi currency revaluation (RV). Tony details coalition-building in Baghdad after parliamentary elections, noting that Mohammed Al-Sudani garnered the most votes but still must assemble the largest bloc and be reselected amid U.S.-Iran influence and caretaker constraints. He relays that UN/IMF/Treasury/Fed sources say a go-live could occur overnight, while banks have given no standby orders or 800 numbers. A U.S. grassroots "financial blackout" campaign (Nov 20–25) is cited as a reason some sources want the RV beforehand to spur spending into Black Friday. Q&A covers timelines (Nov 15 target missed; push before Thanksgiving; a Dec 15 outer window), exchange procedures (no purchase receipts needed), and debunking viral AI/"Gazette" claims. Additional segments include Tony’s view of Venezuela (Maduro negotiating under pressure; broader oil/mineral motives), caution on unverified ZIM/agri-check figures, and personal risk guidance post-RV (inflation, healthcare cost spikes, prudent wealth management). Tony also addresses persistent critics, urging listeners to filter misinformation and focus on preparedness, while acknowledging uncertainty until official bank directives arrive.

TNT Call Summary — November 17, 2025

Hosts and participants

• Hosts: Tony and Ray (RayRen98). Speaker 1 is Ray; Speaker 2 is Tony throughout the session.
• Callers/handles referenced: Charles, Danny (Dallas), “Dare to Dream,” Linda, Bert/Bertman, Trudy, Bus Lady, One Wise Guy, Jimmy R, Larou, AB, Shane, Lady Joy, Wendy, “The real Mark…,” Fly Boy, and others.

Overall context and tone

• Tone: Candid, defensive toward critics, and focused on near-term timing claims for an RV. Tony repeatedly emphasizes he relays what sources tell him and cannot control outcomes.
• Key friction: Tony addresses persistent critics (“affiliates”) and says he will block them and those who forward him their posts. He advises listeners to ignore rumor sites/videos that repeatedly claim the RV is already live.

Headline timing claims and windows (per Tony’s sources)

• “Tonight” window: Multiple sources (Tony cites the UN, IMF, Treasury, and Federal Reserve) said it was “happening tonight,” with a typical go-live window between 2:00 a.m.–6:00 a.m. local. Tony had not heard corroboration from banks; no bank standby directives or early call-ins were reported that day.
• Bank 800 numbers: None in hand during the call. Tony notes they could arrive in the morning if it were to go.
• Near-term rationale: Tony says “three-letter guys” want the RV before a planned Nov 20–25 “financial blackout” (a consumer spending boycott) to flood consumers with cash and blunt the boycott’s impact, particularly leading into Black Friday.
• Seasonal windows offered by sources (Tony):
  • Before Thanksgiving/Black Friday (often cited historically; he acknowledges hearing the same for many years).
  • If not by Thanksgiving, there’s talk of a Dec 15 “cutoff.”
• Contingency: If Iraqi government formation drags, he suggests it could slip weeks to months (he mentions even into March) in a worst case, but stresses his sources were trying for “tonight/tomorrow.”

Iraq political landscape and what it means for the RV (as discussed)

• Election mechanics: Tony explains that “winning most votes” does not automatically make a candidate prime minister. Parties aggregate seats into coalitions to build the largest “house,” then negotiate over posts and nominate a PM.
• Current situation:
  • Tony says Sudani (also referenced as “Sadani/Sudani”) won the most votes but that doesn’t confer PM; coalition building and bargaining are ongoing.
  • Reports/claims circulating: “Iran doesn’t want Sudani back,” “the U.S. doesn’t want Sudani,” “10 names were submitted to the U.S. and Sudani wasn’t on it,” and militia-linked MPs increased. Tony frames this as competing influence: Iran with parliamentary seats, the U.S. with financial leverage.
  • Caretaker phase: Tony says it reverted to a caretaker government (with Sudani acting), which limits certain actions; unclear what can/can’t be done during this period.
• Contradictory/dual messaging on the Gazette:
  • Tony dismisses rumor sites claiming “it’s in the Gazette” today as false.
  • Separately, he asserts the RV was “already approved” and “already in the Gazette” but “being hidden,” and thus could be released at any time. This is Tony’s claim and is not independently verifiable within the call.
• Coalition-building timeline: Tony suggests it could take weeks to months, historically; nonetheless, he keeps focus on “already-done items” and U.S. Treasury decision-making rather than waiting for full government completion.

Banking readiness and process items

• Banks: No standby instructions or early shifts were reported that day, despite Tony’s other sources saying “tonight.” He notes recent bank frustration at repeated “false starts.”
• Federal teams: Tony claims “the feds” would be on 12-hour shifts that night awaiting a possible go; this is his sourced claim.
• 800 numbers: None provided; Tony repeats that without 800s the community is not going “in the morning,” though numbers could arrive same-day if greenlit.
• Treasury contracts: Tony says banks’ staffing/OT costs tied to readiness are covered under contract with the Treasury.
• Receipts at exchange: Tony strongly rejects the idea that customers must bring purchase receipts to redeem currency, comparing it to depositing a $20 bill—no proof-of-origin is required at a standard currency exchange.

Rumor control and misinformation

• Persistent rumor sites/videos: Tony and a caller warn about AI-voiced videos and channels posting recycled, sensational headlines about rates and “Gazette is live” claims. Guidance: if it repeatedly proves wrong, stop consuming it; these channels monetize views/clicks.
• “Affiliates” (critics): Tony argues they attend every call to mine info while publicly disparaging it. He says he’ll block critics and may block forwarders of their content.

U.S. domestic context: Nov 20–25 spending boycott

• “Financial blackout” Nov 20–25: Tony says the administration is aware of a campaign urging people not to spend during those dates to “send a message.” He sees it as potentially impactful if widely adopted and says sources want the RV before then to inject cash that would negate a boycott.
• Potential impact (Tony’s view): A 5-day national spending freeze would be globally disruptive; even prior single-day boycotts have been costly for major retailers. Hence, urgency to pre-empt with liquidity from an RV.

Venezuela and other geopolitics (Tony’s assessments/claims)

• Venezuela: Tony asserts U.S. posturing is about oil/minerals and regime change, not drugs. He characterizes the military build-up as intimidation to force an agreement. He adds Maduro has tried to negotiate and that potential exile options were floated; he claims Russia and China declined to take him and that Indonesia was being sounded out. These are Tony’s claims, not independently verified in the call.
• Oliver North analogy: Tony references historical drug-money operations (Oliver North) to draw parallels, stating some are upset they aren’t getting their “share.”

ZIM, VND, and Bolívar Q&A and rate chatter (all as Tony’s claims)

• ZIM and “agro checks”: Tony says he was told ZIM would go, including agro checks. He shares inconsistent rate talk during the call:
  • At one point: “10 and below” = $0.35; “10 and above” = $0.50 (context unclear; likely denomination groupings). He later “clarifies” in response to a question with references to “six zeros” and “three zeros,” which introduced confusion.
  • He also mentions someone had told him “over 10 was ‘three’ with six zeros,” i.e., 0.000003, contradicting the cents figures. Net: no clear, consistent ZIM rate was established on the call.
• VND: Tony cites an $11 figure for VND (per 1 unit) in conversation; presented as his claim, not a confirmed rate. A caller with 70+ million VND was told that would be significant at such a rate.
• Venezuelan Bolívar (VES): Tony says Bolívar participation is tied to regime change; “not letting it go until Maduro is gone.” If removed, he thinks it could be added between baskets.
• “All three going?” A caller with IQD/VND/ZIM asked if all three will go; Tony said yes, “that’s what they’re telling me.”

What Iraqis and citizens are hearing (callers’ perspectives and Tony’s)

• Citizen sentiment: Tony says Iraqis are upset about militia influence/Iranian sway and the mixed messaging about Sudani’s status. He adds he’s been told Iraqi citizens’ phones are being monitored, limiting discussion.
• On-the-ground improvement (caller “Time is now”): Reports gradual improvements via digitization—citizens bringing in old notes, balances loaded to cards, more mobile access; quality of life is “hard but better” than a year ago. Public distrust of government and banks remains, mirroring sentiments in the U.S.

Process myths and mechanics addressed

• “Law of one rate”: Tony says he’s never heard of a “law” requiring one rate. He describes a likely sequence: reinstatement, then revaluation, an in-country rate, then an international/Forex rate—rates differ across countries due to currency relationships.
• Who “releases” the RV: A question referenced Tony’s past idea that UST (with Trump’s permission) is the only agency that can release it. Tony answers that they would not call him; they would notify banks/IMF, and that’s how the public would learn.

Post-RV cautions (Tony’s guidance)

• 30–60 days after: Tony anticipates tougher economic conditions regardless of the RV: government program cuts, food insecurity, rising rents/groceries, tariff effects, and significantly higher health insurance premiums in January (he says “double/triple/quadruple”).
• Wealth management reality check: Tony warns that $1–2 million is not a “lot” of money when lifestyles change; many blow through funds quickly (he cites two years as a common failure horizon). He urges restraint and awareness: avoid handing out money recklessly to friends/family; plan for inflation (ranchers are signaling ground beef could hit $10/lb mid-next year, per Tony).
• Seniors: Multiple callers express concern; Tony encourages pragmatism—live as if RV might not be tomorrow; take care of immediate needs.

Specific Q&A highlights

• 2025 timing: Tony says no one he knows is “pushing” to delay until 2025; if a stable government is required it could delay, but he’s been told it could be released anytime based on prior approvals.
• Mosque/street messaging: Tony has not heard of new currency-specific messaging; citizens are focused on politics and influence issues.
• Exchange procedures: No new procedures shared; Tony expects to receive formal guidance and 800s at go time.
• Receipts for exchange: Not required (Tony’s stance).
• Blackout awareness: Some callers hadn’t heard of it; Tony suggests Googling “Blackout November 20–25.” He says “three-letter” sources cite it as a reason to go beforehand.
• Sudani’s standing: Tony’s sources haven’t said he’s “fallen out of favor”; the “US/IRAN don’t want him” narrative is what’s being reported locally; Tony labels some of it “chaos.” He lists Sudani’s accomplishments (banking growth, agreements), saying he’s the “best” leader in years despite not pleasing U.S. or Iran 100%.

Actionable takeaways

• Temper expectations: Even with “tonight/tomorrow” chatter, banks had no standby orders and 800s were not issued during the call.
• Ignore recycled rumors: Do not amplify AI videos or sites repeatedly claiming “Gazette posted” or “live now” without verifiable proof.
• Be ready but practical: Have a plan for exchange day, but manage day-to-day finances as if timing could slip. Receipts are not required for a standard currency exchange, per Tony.
• Post-exchange discipline: Build a plan for inflation, tax, insurance hikes, and long-term sustainability; avoid overspending and unmanaged gifting.
• Watch the windows Tony cited: Before Thanksgiving/Black Friday, Dec 15, and the Nov 20–25 boycott period; also recognize that Iraqi coalition formation could still extend timelines.

Closing note (from Tony)

• Tony ends hopeful for a “tonight/tomorrow” outcome while acknowledging chaos and uncertainty in Iraq and the mismatch between agency chatter and bank readiness. He reiterates he relays what he’s told, prays it concludes, and will push out any verified procedures and numbers as soon as he has them.