DINAR UPDATE 10-5-26

The Spaces focused on imminent exchange logistics for the RV community, led by Tony and Ray. Tony framed this as likely the last call before “800 numbers,” citing multiple data points: contractors reportedly paid at an international rate around $4.28 (vs. prior $3.90), bank briefings showing IQD around $6.47 and VND near $3, and an anecdotal large-holder exchange at over $8. He said banks had the green light and that rates were live as of the prior night, though 800 numbers were not yet released. Guidance covered how to ask for the “highest rate available” (aka the 2850 rate), use of access codes, and negotiating tiers/limits on contract allocations. They cautioned listeners on scams (spoofed bank calls, OTP traps), personal and family pressures after sudden wealth, and broader macro risks around the election, potential martial law, energy shocks, and Project 2025—urging contingency planning, diversification, and hard assets. Q&A covered circulated vs. uncirculated notes (both acceptable), Federal Reserve district constraints, trust setup timing (Ray favored independent advisors vs. bank-provided), leaving funds to earn interest and access pre-IPO opportunities, and distribution channels for the 800 numbers (subscribers, TNT members, and X).

TNT Twitter Spaces recap and analysis

Hosts and speakers identified

  • Tony (Speaker 1): Primary host of the TNT call; sets agenda, shares bank/agency intel, provides guidance and warnings, moderates strongly.
  • Ray (aka Raven 98) (Speaker 2): Co‑host; provides confirmations and clarifications, answers process questions, offers caution on using bank-provided planners for trusts.
  • Call-in participants (selected):
    • Mr. Woody (Speaker 3)
    • Art (Speaker 4)
    • All Aboard (Speaker 5)
    • Susan/Cindy (Speaker 6)
    • Yakira (Speaker 7)
    • Tony Jay (Speaker 8)
    • Freddy (Speaker 9)
    • Coach (Speaker 10)
    • Ray W (Speaker 11)
    • Danny and Walt (likely “Walk”) referenced near the end
    • “Bam a boy” (Speaker 13)
    • “G being” (unnumbered, near the end)
    • Others mentioned but not fully connected due to tech issues: Dare to Dream, Be Babs, First Lady

Executive overview

  • The hosts framed this session as potentially the last call before the release of “800 numbers,” though they emphasized they do not yet have those numbers in hand. They said banks have a “green light,” and a live rate was allegedly active the prior night.
  • A central claim: a named contractor was paid Monday morning at an “international rate” (Tony gave $4.28 as the payout rate for a specific contract; an earlier agreed rate had been $3.90). This is presented by Tony as the key trigger they had long awaited, implying exchanges for the public are imminent.
  • Rate signals Tony reported from different channels (all framed as what he was told):
    • Internal bank briefing (Wells Fargo, Sunday): IQD ~ $6.47; VND ~ $3.00; target start on Tuesday (the day after this call).
    • A Chase exchange allegedly processed that morning at “$8 and something” for a very large IQD holder (500–600 million IQD). Tony labeled this a “whale” transaction.
    • “Fed” perspective relayed by Tony: more exchanges have been processed nationwide than the public believes, and all such transactions flow through the Treasury/Fed; the “RV” itself allegedly occurred “1.5–2 months ago” with ongoing payouts.
  • Tony’s forward guidance: He hopes for Tuesday start but cannot guarantee timing. He expects 800 numbers could arrive overnight, but reiterates that he doesn’t control release and that timing may vary by day and visibility on Forex.
  • Warnings and preparation: Tony delivered extended guidance on scam prevention, social/family dynamics after sudden wealth, post-exchange planning (asset safety, diversification, potential political/economic volatility), and process tactics for seeking “contract rates.”

Key announcements and timing signals

  • “Green light”/live rate status: Tony says a three-letter agency told him the rate went live the prior night; calls from bankers indicated banks had green lights before the call; he expected 800 numbers to have been released the previous night but they were not.
  • Contractors paid at international rate: Tony emphasized a contractor payment Monday morning at around $4.28 (versus a prior $3.90 agreement). He says this signals international functionality and initiates pending contracts.
  • Banks processing activity: Tony relayed that multiple banks (beyond a few rumored locations) have processed exchanges over the weekend and recent weeks; he attributes this view to “Fed” insights and says all transactions are tracked.
  • Public exchange window: Hosts hope for a Tuesday start; they caution that even with a “green light,” visibility (e.g., on Forex) may lag, and the public process hinges on official release of 800 numbers.

Rate landscape as discussed

  • IQD (Iraqi dinar):
    • Contractor payout cited at ~ $4.28 for a specific contract.
    • Internal bank briefing (Wells) cited $6.47.
    • A reported Chase whale exchange at “$8 and something.”
    • “2850” label: Tony calls this “the highest rate available” (contract/structured rate concept); limited allocation; requires asking explicitly and entering access codes; availability not guaranteed at appointment.
  • VND (Vietnamese dong):
    • Tony reported a screen rate of around $3.00.
    • Contract scenario reported at $11 for the first tranche (e.g., first 20–50 million VND), with remaining amounts at a lower rate (e.g., ~$3) depending on negotiation.
    • Another example: a bank offered either 28.50 for a capped amount plus a lower rate on the rest, or 12.50 flat for all; the holder chose the 12.50 flat. Tony’s message: run the numbers and choose what maximizes overall proceeds.
  • Other currencies referenced qualitatively (no firm rates given on this call): INR (rupee), ZIM, VES (Bolivar), possibly Syrian currency if sanctions drop; Tony stresses diversification because timing and eligibility may vary by currency.
  • Forex vs non-Forex: Tony notes payments to contractors and whales can occur without public Forex postings; public exchanges could proceed with bank screens showing live rates even if Forex visibility lags.

Process guidance and tactics

  • 800 numbers as the gateway: Tony and Ray advise not to press banks for pre-release confirmation; most front-line staff will say “no rate/no awareness” until official activation. Wait for the 800 numbers.
  • How to ask for premium rates:
    • Use the phrase: “the highest rate available.” If 28.50 is relevant, ask explicitly, “What about the 28.50?”
    • Staff are reportedly “trained” to try an access code and see if the rate applies; not all customers will qualify; there may be percentage caps on premium allocations.
    • Be prepared to negotiate blended outcomes (e.g., capped high-rate tranche + base rate on remainder vs a single mid-rate across all holdings).
  • Federal Reserve district constraint: Ray affirmed prior guidance that you may need to exchange within your Federal Reserve district (subject to official instructions upon release).
  • Currency naming at appointment: Use the country plus currency name (e.g., Iraqi dinar, Vietnamese dong) rather than abbreviations to avoid confusion (banks serve multiple “dinar” countries).
  • Circulated vs uncirculated notes: Ray emphasized both are valid for exchange; uncirculated sells at a dealer premium but face value exchange is the same.
  • Distribution channels for 800 numbers: Tony intends to release via three channels—subscriber list, TNT members site, and X (formerly Twitter). He also reminded participants to properly copy/paste links if clickable formatting fails.

Risk, security, and scam warnings

  • Social engineering scams: Tony described a case where a caller impersonated a bank rep, had partial account details, and attempted to capture a one-time code sent to the customer. Prevention:
    • Banks will not call you first to request codes; if you receive such a call, hang up and contact the bank directly using a known number.
    • Never read back one-time passcodes to unsolicited callers.
    • If compromised, a bank may close and reopen accounts; expect that process if you report an incident.
  • Post-exchange fraud risk: Tony anticipates increased targeting of the newly wealthy; urges heightened vigilance, especially for older participants; consider limiting information sharing and applying strong operational security.

Managing social dynamics after a windfall

  • Expect blame and pressure: Tony anticipates that friends/family who ignored or dismissed the opportunity may later accuse you of “not explaining it” or “not helping enough.” Requests may follow: gifts, loans, business investments, etc.
  • Boundaries: Prepare to say no; accept you may lose relationships; prioritize your plan and your obligations. Tony underscored personal responsibility and refusing guilt coercion.

Post-exchange planning, governance, and economic outlook (Tony’s perspective)

  • Political/economic volatility: Tony raised the possibility of election-related disruptions (referencing public comments by political figures about “insurrection” rules or martial law). He urged planning for:
    • Changes in rules of engagement and economic conditions.
    • Higher oil prices and inflation pressures.
    • Not specifically bank failures, but broader systemic effects that could impact interest rates and liquidity.
  • Project 2025: Tony repeatedly encouraged reading it to understand proposed policy directions; claims three-letter agencies advised him to act within 90 days. He stressed having Plan A and Plan B.
  • Asset allocation ideas:
    • Maintain a working relationship with banks to leverage interest income and access to pre-IPO opportunities (via specialized bank divisions; coordinate through a private banker or wealth manager depending on deposit level).
    • Consider diversification into real assets (e.g., real estate) and possibly international banking options.
    • Team-based approach: assemble independent advisors with proven track records; avoid overreliance on bank-provided planners for trusts and estate structures due to potential conflicts of interest.
  • Trusts and timing: Ray reaffirmed there will be time post-exchange to set up trusts (days/weeks/months). Banks will offer in-house services, but Ray advised preferring independent professionals. Tony emphasized he will still keep substantial funds in banks to earn and reinvest interest.

Q&A highlights and specific guidance

  • Waffle: What is the “28.50” rate called? Tony: “The highest rate available.” Ask explicitly; have bankers try the access code.
  • See Gone Fishing: Would Treasury funding show on bank balance sheets? Ray/Tony: Not their focus; they rely on confirmations, not financial statements.
  • Mr. Woody: Banks deny RV; how to get higher rate without 800 numbers? Tony: You can’t; this only proceeds after official release. Tony added only senior political direction ultimately triggers the start.
  • Art: Which currencies? Tony had current rates only for IQD and VND; past chatter on INR, ZIM, VES; diversification remains prudent.
  • All Aboard: Does more currency equal higher rate? Tony: Contract rates have caps; beyond that, negotiate; choose blended or flat offers by maximizing total returns.
  • Susan/Cindy: Is circulated currency okay? Yes. How will 800 numbers be released? Via subscribers, TNT members, and X. Also, prefer country+currency names over abbreviations.
  • Yakira: Will 800 numbers include the full first-basket list? Unknown. Abbreviations? Prefer country names. Are contracts per currency or account? Tony’s view: contracts align with USD amounts in your account; banker feedback emphasized naming conventions for currencies.
  • Tony Jay: Do we need to exchange in our Fed district? Ray: Yes, as far as he knows. November risk? Tony outlined potential election-related disruptions; plan for safety of funds; not a bank-failure prediction, but anticipate macro changes. Keep Plan A/B and consider real assets and jurisdictional diversification.
  • Freddy: Encouraged the audience to read Project 2025 and use TNT guidance to bolster finances even pre-RV.
  • Coach: Time to set up trusts? Yes, post-exchange. Should we use bank vehicles? Ray advised independent professionals; Tony still uses banks strategically for yields and pre-IPOs.
  • Ray W: 800 numbers? None yet. Can we call banks without them? No. VND rates for large holdings? Plan on ~$3 base screen rate with possible $11 contract tranche for initial volume; negotiate remainder.
  • “G being”: Claimed a vendor changed a 100 Bolivar note price to $999.99; other listeners disputed this on the spot; Tony told listeners to verify independently.
  • “Bam a boy”: Asked about Iraqi celebrations/announcements. Tony hadn’t seen definitive public notes; he reiterated contractors and public-sector groups getting paid and suggested internet blackouts may have limited visibility.

Moderation, tone, and housekeeping

  • Tony addressed persistent skeptics (“fidiots” in his phrasing) by urging listeners to block trolls and avoid engagement. He reiterated that attendance is optional and that he will continue moderating/cleaning channels.
  • Music and platform notes: Tony mentioned wanting to play R. Kelly’s “Shut Up” once transitions to a different platform. He expects future streams to be on a non‑X system for 800-number communications.

Practical next steps for listeners

  • Prepare for 800 numbers:
    • Watch for release via TNT subscribers, TNT members site, and X; ensure you can copy/paste links accurately if clicking fails.
    • Plan to exchange within your Federal Reserve district unless instructed otherwise.
    • Bring currency organized by country name; avoid abbreviations at the desk.
  • Rate and negotiation preparation:
    • Decide ahead of time whether to pursue a capped high-rate tranche plus remainder at base rate, or accept a single mid-rate across all holdings.
    • Use the phrasing “highest rate available” and ask specifically about 28.50 if applicable; be ready for access-code procedures.
  • Security measures:
    • Never share one-time codes with callers; validate any bank contact via known channels; be alert for social-engineering attempts.
    • Limit public disclosures about holdings; consider staged disbursements and account structures for safety.
  • Post-exchange planning:
    • Line up independent estate/trust counsel; banks can provide services but may prioritize their own interests.
    • Consider interest-bearing placements, pre-IPO access via bank capital markets, and real-asset diversification.
    • Build a multi-advisor team with verifiable track records; think generationally.
  • Social boundaries:
    • Script responses to anticipated family/friend pressures; formalize gift/loan policies; be ready to say no.

Key takeaways

  • Hosts assert the process is “live” behind the scenes, citing contractor payments at an international rate and bank “green lights,” but 800 numbers are not yet in hand; Tuesday was the next hopeful target.
  • Reported indicative rates (all as claimed by Tony): IQD contractor at ~$4.28; bank screen IQD ~$6.47; a whale IQD deal at “$8 and something”; VND screen ~$3.00; VND contract tranche examples up to ~$11.
  • “Highest rate available” (often referred to as 28.50) is a capped allocation; ask explicitly and be prepared to negotiate blended outcomes.
  • Expect scams, social pressure, and heightened risk after a windfall; prepare operational security, boundaries, and a layered advisory team.
  • Anticipate macro volatility around the election period; have Plan A/B, read relevant policy documents, and consider asset diversification and jurisdictional strategies.

Accuracy and attribution note

  • Many operational assertions (e.g., live status, Fed/IMF briefings, contractor rates, specific bank payouts) are presented as Tony’s reports of what he was told by unnamed sources and not independently verifiable within this call. The analysis above attributes those claims to the speakers and frames them as such.