EPSTEIN FILES LATE & ALL REDACTED • CHARLIE KIRK MILITARY OP?

The Spaces unpacked two intertwined threads: a crowdsourced probe into the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the partial, heavily redacted release of the Epstein files. Hosts and guests outlined a developing timeline centered on an alleged Fort Huachuca meeting days before the killing, with witness Mitch identifying possible attendees (Erica Kirk, Cabot Phillips, Brian Harpole, and Rep. Mark Amodei), while a veteran (Colonel) challenged the plausibility and Mitch’s Special Forces credentials. Candace Owens was said to have facilitated photo IDs and confronted Amodei, whose public alibi drew a community note and scrutiny of congressional records. Analysis of event footage flagged Frank Turek’s phone as displaying a non‑FaceTime surveillance feed (possibly drone), and campus logistics (UVU courtyard naming, canine units) were cited as oddities. On Epstein, speakers argued DOJ violated the Epstein Transparency Act, releasing ~3GB of ~300GB and over‑redacting; Reps. Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna were referenced as exploring impeachment/inherent contempt and urging state AG action. A broader debate urged cross‑partisan unity, reforms (e.g., Citizens United), and concrete steps (FOIA base hotel cameras, special counsel via discharge motions), while cautioning witness safety and intelligence‑style containment.

Session overview

A large Twitter Spaces discussion led by host Diligent and co-host Noxy examined two intertwined themes: the ongoing crowd-sourced investigation into the assassination of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University (UVU) and the heavily redacted release of the Epstein files. The conversation featured detailed claims, open-source sleuthing, procedural debates, and sharp disagreements, with repeated calls for documentation, accountability, and cross-partisan collaboration.

Key participants included:

• Diligent (host; investigative lead and aggregator of receipts)
• Noxy (co-host; surfaced deleted posts and contextual threads)
• Sam Parker (video analyst; broke down visual evidence on devices and angles at the scene)
• Maine (independent/Dem-leaning political operative; focused on congressional processes, accountability levers, and broader political dynamics)
• Colonel (25-year military veteran, resident near Fort Huachuca; challenged the plausibility of parts of the whistleblower’s account)
• Kelly (independent journalist; posed technical questions about the scene and sight lines)
• Big Dev (added Epstein email chronology, nuclear/IP3 linkages)
• Additional voices weighed in (e.g., defense-side procedural updates, citizens experienced with GRAMA/FOIA, and philosophically oriented perspectives about class vs. party dynamics).

Charlie Kirk assassination: crowd-sourced investigation threads

Alleged Fort Huachuca meeting and identifications

• A veteran whistleblower “Mitch” (introduced via Candace Owens) claims he saw Erica Frantzve Kirk (Erica Kirk) and an unidentified man in a hotel lobby the evening prior to an alleged “military meeting,” and then recognized several attendees the next morning at (what participants pronounced as) “Fort Wichuka,” widely understood to be Fort Huachuca, AZ.
• Candace Owens facilitated a “witness lineup” by showing Mitch photos without context and asking for recognition. According to participants, Mitch identified with high confidence:
  • Brian Harpole (referenced as TPUSA/related staff leadership at the event)
  • Rep. Mark Amodei (R-NV; Appropriations member) allegedly present near the timeframe at issue
  • Cabot Phillips (Daily Wire personality; also previously connected to Erica Frantzve Kirk via older social posts)
• Context provided by Diligent/Noxy:
  • Noxy found deleted tweets/posts involving Cabot Phillips and Erica Frantzve (Frantzve = Erica’s maiden name), and Diligent pulled a “Wayback Machine” capture of a couples photo that went viral.
  • Claims that Cabot was not doing his Daily Wire shows the week prior to the assassination; later, he was scheduled to speak in Erica’s hometown shortly after Charlie’s killing.

Congressman Mark Amodei’s public alibi and community note

• Amodei posted a Reagan-quoting thread asserting he was in Washington, DC (House floor votes Sept 8 and a 12-hour Appropriations markup Sept 9) and pointed people to committee video.
• Diligent checked Congressional Records and roll calls and found Amodei absent for two roll calls and only appearing later on video (after a third roll call). Diligent argued Amodei’s own references “led to evidence” undermining his stated timeline.
• A constituent in the Space reported being stonewalled by Amodei’s office when asking for his schedule.
• Amodei’s post received a platform “community note” contradicting his timeline, which participants called a significant “self-own,” reinforcing their confidence in Mitch’s identifications.

Venue, landscaping, and site specificity (UVU)

• Sam reported UVU has multiple courtyards. Documents to TPUSA on Aug 21 used “Student Center Courtyard,” but the initial TPUSA website announcement on Aug 27 used “UVU Courtyard,” which is not an official designation.
• On Sept 9, UVU Review and the TPUSA chapter reportedly issued clarifications naming “Fountain Courtyard” for the next day.
• A GRAMA request submitted using “UVU Courtyard” language was denied for insufficient specificity based on UVU’s multiple courtyards. Sam argued this raises operational planning questions: Did the shooter (Tyler Robinson) get lucky or plan contingencies for multiple courtyards?
• Paving over the crime scene: Multiple speakers expressed concerns about post-event paving/landscaping and its timing (per earlier threads), suggesting it compromised forensic integrity.

K-9/bomb sniffing presence

• Participants cited reports (via Candace) of bomb-sniffing dogs at UVU on the day of the event, implying heightened pre-event security atypical for a standard campus talk.

Video analyses: devices, angles, and potential drone feeds

• Sam published a detailed video analysis of Frank Turek’s phone at the moment near the shooting. Turek has said he was on FaceTime (and later left the phone connected on the way to the hospital until back at the hotel).
• Sam’s close-ups suggest Turek’s phone displays a separate video feed (not FaceTime), potentially from a drone or combined security feed. Indications:
  • The phone shows angles capturing points behind Turek (e.g., white Chevy pickup near the SUVs, tunnel tire, pond/grass) inconsistent with his phone’s orientation.
  • A distinctive bracelet (“shiny”) on Dan Flood’s raised arm appears on Turek’s screen from an angle mismatched to Turek’s vantage point, supporting the claim the phone was receiving an external feed.
• Sam hypothesized a fast-moving mini-drone under the tent or a security feed aggregated from multiple wearable sources (e.g., AR/meta glasses). He promised to post additional footage of a small drone zipping under the tent.

Defense motions and prosecutorial issues (Utah)

• Participants reported the defense filed a motion to disqualify the entire Utah County Prosecutor’s Office, alleging taint due to intra-office communications about contemporaneous texts from a family member at the assassination.
• They also discussed overlapping conflicts (e.g., Terrell Farnsworth’s cousin on the defense team), and suggested venue changes or broader ramifications may result.

Witness outreach and evidentiary gaps

• Reported contact from extended family of Tyler Robinson to Diligent; plans to vet and bring forward broader family accounts in Spaces for accurate portrayal.
• A claimed witness saw a person in tactical gear on the roof; participants worry no defense/prosecution outreach occurred to that witness.
• Harrison Smith allegedly declared a credible threat prior to the event; participants questioned official interest.
• Candlewood Suites (IHG contract lodging) on-base at Fort Huachuca: Colonel confirmed it’s on-base lodging; FOIA requests for hotel camera footage should be possible, per his experience.

Points of disagreement: military plausibility and Mitch’s background

• Colonel (25-year military veteran near Fort Huachuca) described multiple inconsistencies:
  • Special Forces (SF) pipeline (initial enlistment, Q-course timing) vs. Mitch’s timeline
  • Identification of SF personnel “by look” in civilian attire without tab/beret
  • Operational building access norms (front desk checks, special passes beyond base ID); described Mitch’s claims of wandering into operational HQ/lobby as implausible.
• Diligent countered with independent verifications:
  • Court records from Mitch’s divorce proceedings documenting combat/PTSD, and veteran/military IDs
  • A veterans organization (circa 2021–2022) listing Mitch as a Special Forces medic
  • Emphasized that divorce-related “chaos” does not negate a veteran’s presence on base nor their observations.
• Colonel agreed to consider new receipts if produced (including video place/time proofs), but held that, from a military perspective, the narrative as presented “does not add up.”

Epstein files: release, redactions, and accountability pathways

Scope of release vs. statutory expectations

• Ro Khanna reportedly told Maine the DOJ possesses over 300 GB of Epstein files; only 3 GB were released and those were heavily redacted (90%), including protection for “political people,” which would violate the Epstein Transparency Act.
• Speakers repeatedly asserted non-compliance with the statute (passed House/Senate, signed by the President), calling the Friday drop inadequate and tactical.

Legal and congressional remedies discussed

• Impeachment: Maine relayed discussions about filing articles of impeachment against Attorney General Pam Bondi (as framed by speakers), noting Republican defections could be possible if violations are clear.
• Inherent contempt of Congress: Khanna reportedly described the House’s sergeant-at-arms power to detain a non-compliant executive officer, conducting a trial in Congress.
• Discharge motions: To bypass leadership bottlenecks (e.g., Speaker Johnson), creating votes on special committees or independent bodies (e.g., blue-ribbon commission) to investigate Epstein and potentially Kirk.
• Special counsel: Diligent advocated for a single special counsel with plenary power across agencies, convened via statute, covering both Epstein and Charlie Kirk investigations.
• State AG prosecutions: Maine emphasized crimes occurring in states (e.g., New York) are not pardonable by the President; he suggested NY AG Tish James could initiate state-level actions where applicable.
• Civil standing: Thomas Massie previously indicated the Act’s design grants media/victims standing to sue for non-compliance to compel disclosure in court.

Notable names and threads raised

• Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson (content in the released tranche) were highlighted; speakers argued this focus was predictable “political optics.”
• Tom Barrack/IP3: Big Dev recapped email timetables in which Epstein advised Barrack on Middle East contacts (UAE/Saudi) and allegedly traveled to Saudi Arabia the day before the 2016 election, pointing to potential brokering of nuclear technologies; referenced concerns that U.S. nuclear tech could be flowing to Russia/Saudi via vehicles like TAE (fusion company reportedly with Russian money) and the recently assassinated MIT physicist who sat on a related nonprofit board.

Party dynamics, resignations, and power plays

• Speakers speculated on a wave of resignations:
  • Claims that Sen. Cynthia Lummis (WY) would not seek reelection, and Elise Stefanik pulled out of the NY Governor’s race and would not seek reelection (note: presented as in-Space claims; verification needed).
  • “Bonjino” (likely Dan Bongino) resignation; speculation that his first podcast post-resignation could be revealing (others cautioned he might not divulge anything material).
• Susie Wiles: Discussion of a Vanity Fair profile creating friction inside the administration; speculation that Kevin McCarthy could become the next White House Chief of Staff.
• MTG (Marjorie Taylor Greene): Maine predicted a dramatic House motion to vacate Speaker Johnson upon return, mirroring the Gaetz/McCarthy scenario amid rising rank-and-file discontent.

Thematic throughlines: class vs. party, uniparty, and cross-aisle unity

• Many speakers urged abandoning party tribalism to confront systemic rot: corporate donor capture, agency weaponization, and elite impunity.
• Citizens United surfaced repeatedly as the cornerstone problem enabling a “uniparty donor class” to simultaneously bankroll both sides, skew platforms, and co-opt grassroots movements (Occupy, Tea Party, MAGA).
• A progressive-turned-independent attorney/philosopher advocated term limits, anti-corporate constitutional protections, UBI in an AI/automation future, and ending insider trading; praised Rep. Thomas Massie’s integrity and supported him despite partisan history.
• Maine, while arguing Democrats can “let Republicans cook” tactically, repeatedly returned to structural fixes (discharge motions, oversight, state AG actions), and to framing these battles as class-based rather than purely partisan.

Calls to action

• Evidence gathering:
  • FOIA/GRAMA: Candlewood Suites (IHG on-base lodging) camera footage from Fort Huachuca; base/hotel ingress/egress logs; UVU landscaping work orders and courtyard-specific permits; campus camera feeds; communications records relevant to K-9 deployments.
  • Crowdsource video analysis: Scrub angles to locate small drones or composite surveillance feeds; document signal-like gestures (e.g., Dan Flood’s raised arm) across camera perspectives.
  • Witness protection: Encourage witnesses (nurses, campus staff, law enforcement, hotel staff) to give testimony and secure it publicly to reduce risk.
• Pressure campaigns:
  • Contact representatives to demand a special counsel with broad subpoena/prosecution powers covering Epstein and Kirk.
  • Support discharge motions to force floor votes where leadership blocks oversight.
  • Encourage media/victims to leverage statutory standing and sue for Act compliance.

Open questions and verification needs

• Fort Huachuca: Hotel camera FOIA viability, base entry records, whether Mitch’s presence can be concretely timestamped by third-party footage or logs.
• Identities and alibis: Definitive whereabouts of Erica Frantzve Kirk, Cabot Phillips, and Brian Harpole for Sept 8–9; independent confirmations beyond social/press posts.
• Turek’s phone feed: Authentication of video source (drone vs. aggregated security feed); reconcile his FaceTime narrative with visible feed content.
• UVU logistics: Exact courtyard scheduling chain of custody, mapping of security layouts, and post-incident paving decisions.
• Utah County defense motion: Outcome of the motion to disqualify the prosecutor’s office; whether venue changes occur.
• Epstein compliance: Whether Congress pursues impeachment/inherent contempt; if state AGs initiate parallel criminal investigations; whether media/victims file suits leveraging standing.
• Nuclear/IP3: Substantiation of any alleged tech transfers implicating Epstein’s network; clarity on Jack Smith’s references to nuclear materials.
• Political shifts: Confirmations of claimed resignations; implications of Susie Wiles profile; whether MTG triggers a Johnson motion to vacate.

Timeline recap (as discussed by participants)

• Week before the assassination (Sept 8–9)
  • Alleged sightings at Fort Huachuca/Candlewood Suites lobby the evening before and a “military meeting” the next morning.
  • Cabot Phillips allegedly off-air that week and later scheduled to speak in Erica’s hometown shortly after the assassination.
• Sept 10 at UVU (event day)
  • Multiple courtyards confusion resolved the day before; heavy security cues (K-9 units); tactical gear observed on roof; post-event narratives contested.
• Post-event
  • Paving over of scene; defense motions citing prosecutor’s office taint; ongoing video analysis identifying possible drone feeds; calls for FOIA/GRAMA and special counsel.

Risks and cautions

• Historical parallel: Speakers warned that major assassinations often spawn additional “mysterious” deaths among witnesses or peripheral figures.
• Containment vs. investigation: Selective outreach and ignored lines of inquiry were cited as classic markers of intelligence-grade narrative control.
• Escalation: Participants cautioned that geopolitical developments (e.g., war declarations) can expand executive authorities domestically (surveillance/force), stressing urgency for accountability now.

Participant attributions (as referenced in the Space)

• Diligent (host): Pulled congressional records/roll calls; Wayback evidence; advocates special counsel; coordinates witness outreach.
• Noxy (co-host): Surfaced deleted Erica/Cabot posts; GRAMA denial context; facilitates cross-sourcing and verification.
• Sam Parker: Drone/feed theory; device-angle analysis; video breakdowns of Turek’s phone and on-site signals.
• Maine: Process navigation (impeachment, inherent contempt, discharge motions, state AG paths); broader party dynamics; predicts MTG tactics.
• Colonel (Fort Huachuca area veteran): On-base lodging details; FOIA viability; critiques of SF credential claims and operational plausibility.
• Kelly (independent journalist): Sightline/window queries; concerns about post-event scene treatment.
• Big Dev: Epstein–Barrack–IP3 timeline; raises nuclear tech transfer concerns.
• Additional voices: Constituents, lawyers/philosophers, and former operatives urging cross-partisan unity, structural reforms, and immediate action.

Bottom line

Participants framed both the Kirk assassination and the Epstein files as converging proof points of elite impunity, institutional capture, and active narrative management. The Space focused on assembling receipts, testing claims against public records, developing FOIA/GRAMA targets, and marshalling congressional levers (impeachment, inherent contempt, discharge motions) to force transparency, while repeatedly urging unity beyond party lines to confront what they described as a class-based system of protection. The core near-term asks: secure on-base hotel camera footage, formalize a special counsel with plenary powers over both cases, press Congress to enforce the law (or face inherent contempt), and protect witnesses while the crowd-sourced verification continues.