LATE LATE NIGHT DINAR UPDATE 11-03-25

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The Spaces reviewed the latest status of the long-anticipated currency revaluation and exchange process. Hosts Tony and Ray reported that banks were staffed over the weekend with rates visible on screens and procedures in place, but the release did not occur. Multiple sources (including IMF/UN contacts) claim their teams were paid in Switzerland and that the process is “done,” yet domestic release is said to be pending a single U.S. Treasury go-ahead call. A new “window” was cited, with participants expecting movement into Tuesday. Tony rebutted rumors that timing slipped to January 2026, arguing it conflicts with bank readiness, public messaging in Iraq, and planned political timing around Iraq’s Nov 11 elections. He discussed geopolitical drivers (a U.S. envoy’s role in shaping Iraqi leadership selections; limits on China’s influence after negotiations; Iran’s situation affecting the Rial). On the exchange itself, he emphasized preparation (IDs, organizing notes), flagged that ZIM was “grayed out” on Monday while other rates remained, and outlined yield strategies for leaving substantial funds on deposit in return for high annual returns—firmly noting this was not financial advice. Q&A clarified logistics (ID variations, Puerto Rico vs U.S. mainland banks), timelines for potential second/third currency “baskets,” and a pragmatic fallback if some currencies lag.

TNT Super Fantastic Twitter Space – Summary Notes (Nov 3, 2025)

Participants and Roles

  • Hosts:
    • Tony: Primary host leading intel, analysis, and guidance.
    • Ray (aka “Raven 98”): Co-host/moderator, takes questions and manages the queue.
  • Callers and contributors referenced by name or handle:
    • Heather: Asked ID requirements for exchange.
    • Walt (caller previously shown as “Earth”/connection issues): Timing window and China-related questions.
    • Jim: Expressed community frustration and asked for clarity.
    • Bradley: Thanked hosts; asked about the trigger cause and timing; personal banter re: Rolls-Royce.
    • “Dare to Dream”: Challenging questions on who is getting appointments, Swiss payments, and Africa.
    • Tish: Provided a contrasting election/RV timing view; “New Rate November” hope, but warned of possible delay if elections contested.
    • Loretta: Asked about the Iranian rial (“real/rial”).
    • Additional unnamed callers: A Texas-based caller (interest/strategy/Forex timing), “Charles V,” and others referenced (Danny, David, Jane) but not all spoke on-mic.

Context Since the Prior Call

  • The team skipped expected Friday and weekend calls anticipating activation (800# release and bank appointments). Banks allegedly called staff in for extended hours (through Sunday) expecting exchanges to start; the go-ahead did not come.
  • Many community members texted/emailed during the quiet period; Tony emphasized that if he had a substantive update or a call, he would announce it (tweets were used for quick updates). Membership payments have been suspended for almost two months; some still asked about payments—Tony reiterated they stopped taking payments.

Core Intel and Current Status (as shared on the call)

  • Expected “go” last Friday through Sunday did not materialize. Per Tony’s sources:
    • IMF and UN contacts said “it’s done,” packed up, and reportedly went to banks; some said they were paid.
    • Banks had rates on screens and had mobilized staff (including Sunday), but could not proceed.
    • As of Monday morning, all parties said they were waiting on a single U.S. Treasury phone call to start. Multiple groups (banks, IMF, UN) stated they were in offices awaiting that call.
    • A “window” for release was newly communicated Monday evening; Tony openly stated the traditional watch-time: around 2:00 a.m. (local reference from long-running community experience). Expectation: 800 numbers could come in the morning and exchanges start two hours later.
    • Some individuals reportedly had appointment placeholders for Monday afternoon and Tuesday; Monday did not execute, but Tuesday remained penciled in for some.
  • “Across the pond” rumor clarified: IMF and UN representatives reportedly went to Switzerland, where they were paid for this event and for something tied to Africa (see “Africa/Nigeria” note below). Not retail bank payouts to public—rather, official/organizational payments per Tony’s sources.
  • Screens and rate notes:
    • Zimbabwe (ZIM) was “grayed out” on bank screens as of Monday morning; all other rates remained visible per Tony’s report. Cause unknown.
    • Guidance: If certain instruments don’t go (Tony mentioned ZIM and others he phonetically referred to, as well as the Bolivar), proceed with what does go; later one can accumulate more of the delayed instruments once they do move.

Conflicting Narratives and Tony’s Rebuttals

  • Other gurus (Frank, MarkZ) were cited by listeners as saying no RV until January 2026. Tony strongly disagreed, arguing:
    • Banks already have rates and procedures; staff were scheduled for consecutive days.
    • Iraqi public communications reportedly explained the new system and showed new lower denominations on TV.
    • With all preparatory elements in place, postponing to 2026 makes no operational sense to him.

Iraq Political Context and Timing Considerations

  • Tony’s account:
    • A new U.S. envoy arrived in Iraq and, per articles Tony referenced, the U.S. intends to influence or select key government posts (president, prime minister, finance, defense, etc.).
    • He said the announcement had been “given back” to Iraq to make domestically, allowing the PM (Sadani) to benefit politically before the Nov 11 election.
    • Tony emphasized a pre-election RV is advantageous to avoid the common “new administration resets agreements” delay (historical pattern he claimed from Bush → Obama → Trump → Biden → Trump). If delayed past elections, renegotiations and re-slicing could push timelines 6–9 months.
  • Tish’s view:
    • “New Rate November” is still her expectation; however, she warned Iraq’s switch to fully digital voting (facial recognition; no inked fingers) could trigger contested results. If contested, she speculated a slip to March 2026 is possible.
  • Tony’s counterpoint: All this further argues for going before the election to secure political stability and avoid the post-election reset cycle.

China’s Role (as described by Tony)

  • Historical entry: China was initially excluded from holding dinar because it wasn’t part of Iraq’s security coalition. Tony said China later did a deal with the U.S. Treasury to obtain dinar for Iraqi oil purchases post-RV, connecting this to the origin of some “group” constructs.
  • Subsequent expansion: Tony claims China then invested deeply in Iraq (Silk Road, building 1,000 hospitals and schools, factories), effectively “buying” significant portions of the economy (Tony said ~30%).
  • Negotiation friction: The U.S. and others sought to limit China’s economic control; Tony tied part of last week’s holdup to behind-closed-doors negotiations to curtail Chinese leverage before money flows. He said by late Thursday/Friday, agreements were being reached to mitigate that control, clearing a path to proceed.

Currency-Specific Notes

  • ZIM (Zimbabwe): “Grayed out” on Monday morning screens. Others were still present. Status uncertain pending the Treasury trigger. If ZIM does not go initially, proceed with other currencies and revisit later.
  • Bolivar (Venezuelan): Tony grouped Bolivar among those that might not go immediately; proceed with what is live and accumulate later when it moves.
  • Iranian rial (“real/rial”): Tony stated banks “will not” take it until there is some agreement with Iran. He personally did not expect it to go given current geopolitics.

Exchange Procedures and Preparation Guidance (as discussed)

  • Identification:
    • Two forms of ID requirement should be interpreted as typical bank standards: e.g., driver’s license plus credit card or a recent utility bill. A passport name mismatch (old married name) is acceptable if the current bank account is in the current legal name; bring divorce/marriage documents if helpful.
  • 800 numbers:
    • Not having 800 numbers at night would not necessarily prevent morning exchanges; numbers could be released in the morning, with appointments starting a couple of hours later.
  • Interest/yield strategy at exchange (Tony’s view; not financial advice):
    • Consider leaving 50% or more on deposit to negotiate high annual payout rates (Tony cited ranges of 20–35% and said some could see 40–50%, varying by deposit size and how much you leave parked). He asserts banks can afford these for large depositors, citing overnight rate compounding, fractional lending, and higher-rate loans on the back end.
    • Request interest paid out monthly to a separate account for visibility and liquidity.
    • Use interest to invest in “second” and “third” currency baskets when they move, IPO participation, or build businesses. A caller suggested “leave 99.5%” initially to maximize early interest accrual; Tony responded that offer tiers vary by bank scale and client size (“big bank, little bank” dynamic) and provided anecdotal spreads (e.g., two clients at a smaller bank seeing 20% vs 35%).
    • Tony repeatedly clarified this is what he would do; consult your attorney and wealth manager and negotiate your own terms.

Community Sentiment, Moderation, and Meta

  • Frustration: Callers voiced fatigue over repeated near-starts with no execution, lack of visible 800 numbers, and perceived preferential treatment for “chosen” early appointees. Tony acknowledged the frustration and explained he endures the same back-and-forth across multiple sources—banks, agencies, IMF/UN—sifting contradictions.
  • Source dynamics: Tony described differences between what banks/IMF/UN see “in the system” vs. what three-letter agencies see “behind the curtain,” leading to disparate confidence signals. He also referenced global news being incomplete by design and hinted at parallel backstories (e.g., Venezuela, Nigeria) shaping outcomes.
  • Haters and noise: Tony addressed ongoing criticism from other communities and articles. His stance: focus on outcomes, not detractors; “best revenge is to live well.”
  • Logistics: Tony underscored he tweets when needed; if he has news, he will call. He halted membership payments weeks ago and will restart only if needed.

Q&A Highlights

  • Heather: Two IDs—driver’s license plus credit card/utility bill suffices; passport in prior name is fine if your bank account is in your current legal name and you can show continuity.
  • Walt:
    • Timing: Tony volunteered the long-watched “2 a.m.” window; expects Tuesday to be the focus if Monday’s call doesn’t come.
    • China: Tony explained Chinese involvement and last-week negotiations (see “China’s Role”).
  • Caller on Iraq elections predetermined: Tony referenced articles stating the U.S. envoy’s role and U.S. selection of key posts; questioned the purpose of the election under those assertions.
  • Jim: Voiced community’s exasperation; Tony explained the multi-source conflicts and his real-time reconciliation process; reiterated all are awaiting the Treasury’s signal.
  • Texas caller:
    • Interest payout: Yes, can be paid monthly and used for investments.
    • Forex listing: Tony hoped “tomorrow,” but specifics depend on the actual release mechanics.
  • Bradley:
    • Why no trigger yet? Unknown; all parties still expect Tuesday over Monday. Personal banter about a Rolls-Royce on hold; someone in Atlanta is “holding” one for him.
  • “Dare to Dream”:
    • Were any same-day appointees liquid? No; they were told to return the next day.
    • Who gets early appointments? Tony said “people who know people” (high-end networks); even he has been told he can’t go early.
    • Swiss/Africa: IMF/UN reps reportedly paid in Switzerland; Tony mentioned an Africa/Nigeria situation (see below).
  • Loretta (Iranian rial): Banks will not take it until there’s an Iran agreement; prior bank interest to accept it has been superseded by “last word” of non-acceptance.
  • Tish:
    • “New Rate November” intention; flagged the risk of contested elections due to digital-only voting; if contested, she speculated March 2026. Tony reiterated why pre-election is optimal.
  • Charles V: Queried Tish’s “March” remark; Tony teased but reiterated the team’s November focus.

Africa/Nigeria Note (as referenced)

  • Tony mentioned IMF/UN payments also cover “something happening in Africa,” briefly referencing Nigeria and displacement issues; he linked this to heightened geopolitical actions. No retail-participation avenue was provided; Tony said the public “cannot be a part of it.”

Practical Takeaways for Listeners

  • Expectation window: All parties (banks, IMF, UN) were still in place Monday waiting on a U.S. Treasury go-ahead. The overnight/early-morning window into Tuesday was the immediate focus.
  • Be ready logistics-wise: Have IDs, proof of address, and currency sorted and labeled. Be prepared for 800 numbers to arrive close to go-time and for rapid appointment scheduling.
  • If some instruments (e.g., ZIM, Bolivar, rial) do not initially go, proceed with what does and reassess after; don’t stall your entire exchange.
  • Negotiation mindset: Consider deposit-based yield offers and monthly interest payout; line up professional advisors (attorney, wealth manager) and be ready to negotiate informed terms.
  • Filtering intel: Recognize conflicting narratives; Tony’s position is to weigh bank/system readiness and Iraqi public messaging over long-dated delays, barring political resets.

Bottom Line

  • As of the end of the call: Everyone Tony speaks with (banks, IMF, UN, “three-letter” contacts) reported they were waiting in offices for a single Treasury call. Monday did not see the trigger; a release window overnight toward early Tuesday was being watched. ZIM was grayed out on screens; other rates visible. Tony’s stance: ignore 2026 narratives; prepare for near-term movement, ideally pre-Iraq-election to avoid reset delays. He remains optimistic for “New Rate November,” with tactical readiness emphasized for immediate execution when the call comes.