Friday's: War & Co

The Spaces revisits prior discussions and then focuses on an alleged Israeli drone incident near Naqoura, South Lebanon, which speakers say killed Lebanese Army personnel and injured others, while Israel called it a mistake. The hosts argue this fits a broader pattern of preventing reconstruction and civilian return in South Lebanon and Gaza, citing examples like an elderly man reportedly killed in Ita al-Shaab for staying to help resettlement. They expand into international politics (U.S. and European stances on Palestine, a U.S. school board raising Israel’s flag, and claims that the Trump team plans to revoke visas for PA/PLO officials), framing these as signs of a pro-Israel agenda. A substantial segment explores food, water, and pharma control: Monsanto/GMOs, the U.S. “DARK Act,” alleged destruction of Palestinian and Syrian seed banks, fluoridation, cloud seeding, microplastics, and consumer product chemicals. Speakers advocate traditional medicine over chemotherapy/radiation, share cancer anecdotes, and allege harmful vaccine campaigns, citing WHO’s acknowledgment of OPV2-linked vaccine-derived polio outbreaks and warning of disease spread in Gaza amid hunger. Throughout, they urge documenting incidents, sharing information, and supporting reconstruction and local food resilience.

War Room Space: Key Updates, Claims, and Discussion Summary

Participants and Roles

• Sister Leila (host; Speaker 1): Leads the session, frames news items, and provides analysis and personal anecdotes.
• Adrian (co-host; Speaker 2): Adds commentary on Gaza, U.S. politics, public health claims, and broader ideological critiques.
• Shamim (also referenced as Shamine/Charmine; Speaker 3): Assists with moderating, signaling connection issues, and prompting topics.
• Others mentioned: “Brother Omar” (did not speak on record), references to team members and audience.

Administrative Notes

• The space is recorded to preserve details from prior sessions. There were recurring audio glitches; the hosts asked listeners to retweet and rejoin when necessary.
• Co-hosting was assigned to Adrian for stability.

South Lebanon Incident: Drone, Driller, and Casualties

• Incident as described by Leila:
  • Location: Western sector of South Lebanon, Naqoura area.
  • Sequence: An Israeli drone reportedly targeted a driller said to be clearing rubble. The drone fell/crashed near the site. As engineering personnel came to inspect (Leila alternately referred to Lebanese Army and “Japanese army personnel” in monitoring roles; context suggests a mix of Lebanese Army engineering and possibly foreign observers/units, but the narration is inconsistent), the Israelis remotely detonated the munition.
  • Casualties and claims: One Lebanese Army officer killed, a first adjutant killed, and a third Lebanese Army member injured (Leila’s tally). Leila states this brings Lebanese Army deaths in the current conflict to 61. Israel’s official line, per Leila’s reading of an Arabic spokesperson statement, was that it was a mistake and that the driller was allegedly working on Hezbollah infrastructure.
• Analysis from the hosts:
  • Adrian and Leila frame the incident as part of a pattern: using strikes and post-strike detonation to prevent rubble removal, slow reconstruction, and deter civilian return to border villages.
  • They argue Israel seeks to keep the Blue Line villages cleared to ensure freedom of maneuver and surveillance, and to obstruct any steps toward normalcy in southern Lebanon.

Parallels to Gaza: Reconstruction Obstruction and Civilian Targeting

• Adrian’s position:
  • The same obstruction occurred in Gaza: preventing local authorities from clearing streets, reopening routes, or repairing infrastructure to discourage return. He calls this “textbook terrorism,” asserting it targets civilians, not only armed groups.
• Leila’s example:
  • An elderly man in Ita al-Sha’ab, South Lebanon, who refused displacement and set up a tent and small shop on the rubble of his home to welcome returnees, was later killed in an Israeli strike.
• North Gaza note:
  • Leila references contacts in northern Gaza (including Christians sheltering in churches and monasteries) who reportedly received Israeli warnings to leave “or else,” alongside public statements that everyone must leave or face death.

Ideology, Religion, and U.S. Domestic Controversies

• Zionism and religion (Adrian and Leila):
  • Adrian argues “Zionists have no religion” and labels them “children of Satan,” asserting that Zionism transcends faith and targets all civilians regardless of belief.
  • Leila adds that there are self-identified Arab Muslim Zionists, Christian Zionists, and self-identified Jewish Zionists, and that support for genocide contradicts all three Abrahamic faiths.
• California school board flag decision (Adrian):
  • Claim: A California Board of Education decision to raise the Israeli flag alongside the U.S. flag breaks the principle of church–state separation and sets precedent for displaying religiously-associated flags (e.g., Christian or Muslim symbols). Adrian frames it as a sympathy play amidst ongoing Palestinian casualties.
• “Project Gideon” and hate-speech monitoring (Adrian):
  • Adrian asserts conditions in the U.S. will deteriorate, referencing “Project Gideon,” and claims a “Zionist” was responsible for killing Christian children in the U.S., followed by laws monitoring “antisemitism.” These are presented as his allegations, not independently substantiated in the space.
• Influence narrative (Leila and Adrian):
  • They contend Zionist-aligned interests control media, shape narratives, and exert decisive influence in U.S. government and policy-making. Adrian challenges the framing of “Zionists” as a minority given their alleged sway in Congress, the Senate, and the executive branch.

Food, Water, and Pharma: Control Narratives and Health Claims

• Monsanto/GMOs and labeling (Leila, with Adrian):
  • Monsanto is characterized as predatory: buying land around small farms, letting pollination cause cross-contamination, then invoking intellectual property to seize crops. They link this to the U.S. “DARK Act,” described by Leila as allowing GMO products to be sold without GMO labels, facilitating global export where GMO bans exist.
  • Motivations posited: induce hormone imbalances and diseases via GMOs and additives, then profit through Big Pharma.
• Fluoride, rainwater, and cloud seeding (Leila and Adrian):
  • Leila claims fluoride in drinking water calcifies the pineal gland (“third eye”), contributing to declining cognition, and says some jurisdictions (U.S. and Israel) ban rainwater collection. Adrian links cloud seeding to atmospheric chemical pollution.
  • Both allege microplastics contamination even after reverse osmosis.
• Consumer products and cancer (Leila and Adrian):
  • They assert older deodorants with aluminum were linked to cancer and note big brands removed aluminum after public pressure (Adrian cites Tom’s as an acquired brand; Procter & Gamble brands like Dove/Old Spice). Leila adds that replacements still include potentially carcinogenic chemicals.
  • Sunscreen: Leila claims skin cancer rates rose after widespread sunscreen use and that “traditional societies” lacked sun-related skin disease records.
• Traditional vs modern medicine (Leila):
  • Strong defense of traditional remedies (herbal medicine, acupuncture), and claim that Big Pharma seeks to eliminate them. Leila provides personal anecdotes: her mother (stage 4 leukemia) refused chemotherapy, adopted a strict natural diet, and recovered within eight months; her father’s PSA fell dramatically on a diet before later radiation and pharmaceuticals coincided with metastasis and complications; family cancer prevalence is cited to underscore her views.
  • Adrian cautions about radiation/chemo, narrating a relative’s experience.
  • Note: These are personal accounts and opinions; no clinical evidence was examined in the space.

Gaza Health Alert: Virus Claims, Vaccinations, and Biowarfare Allegations

• Ministry of Health note (Adrian):
  • Cites a reported MoH alert of a virus spreading in Gaza (“Raza/Razza” in transcript), with no capacity to test origins or contents and mass spread among civilians.
• Biological/chemical warfare warnings (Leila):
  • Says their team raised concerns as early as October 2023 and faced smear campaigns for investigating. They claim a pattern of media suppression.
• Yemen vaccine case (Leila):
  • Leila recounts that Yemeni authorities tested multiple vaccines, found some contained elements allegedly causing hormonal imbalances and health risks, administered only those deemed safe, and later their lab was bombed. She alleges international bodies condemned Yemen for resisting vaccine rollout rather than investigating the contents.
• WHO/OPV2 polio claim (Leila):
  • Leila states WHO acknowledged polio outbreaks in Sudan linked to oral polio vaccine type 2 (OPV2) following mass campaigns, alleging the same vaccine was used in Gaza and that weakened children are now susceptible to disease and death. Presented as her claim and interpretation of WHO communications.
• Adrian links hormonal imbalance to broader social phenomena, including a reference to a “transgender child killer”—his claim, not substantiated in the discussion.

PA/PLO, UN Participation, and International Recognition

• Reported policy statement (Adrian, read aloud):
  • “The Trump administration reaffirms commitment to not reward terrorism and revokes visas of Palestinian officials ahead of UNGA.” Adrian interprets this as labeling any Palestinian representative a “terrorist,” with practical consequences: revocation of visas and exclusion of PA/PLO reps from September UN meetings.
  • He draws a parallel to sanctions and ostracism after Hamas won elections, arguing the PA/PLO are now treated similarly despite cooperation with Western policies.
  • He contrasts potential European moves to recognize a Palestinian state with a U.S. refusal to accept even minimal concessions, asserting the U.S. acts in bad faith under a “Zionist-occupied government” (his phrase).

Seed Banks and Food Sovereignty

• Leila’s claims:
  • Israeli forces destroyed Palestinian seed banks and local crops; Syrian national seed bank holdings (especially wheat varieties) were also among early targets in the Syrian war, undermining regional food self-sufficiency.
  • She argues 9–10 multinational firms control most global food brands, consolidating power over supply and diet.

Operational/Connectivity Notes

• Persistent audio issues and suspected “attacks” on the space were mentioned. Shamim repeatedly flagged that parts of Leila’s comments were cutting in and out; Leila tried to restate key points.

Highlights and Takeaways

• Hosts allege a consistent strategy by Israel of obstructing reconstruction and civilian return in South Lebanon and Gaza, citing the Naqoura driller/drone incident and examples of targeting returnees.
• The discussion broadens into ideological critiques of Zionism, claims of political capture in the U.S., and controversies around symbolic support (flag-raising in California).
• Significant portion of the session focuses on public health and food systems: Monsanto/GMOs, labeling policy, fluoride, cloud seeding, consumer chemicals, and a strong preference for traditional medicine over pharmaceuticals—supported by personal anecdotes.
• Health emergency in Gaza: hosts cite a reported MoH alert about a spreading virus, lack of testing capacity, and allege compounded harms from vaccination campaigns and famine.
• Diplomatic front: Adrian reads a statement attributing to the Trump-era State Department about revoking PA/PLO visas for UNGA, interpreting it as a broader pattern of delegitimizing Palestinian representation even when it aligns with Western frameworks.
• Food sovereignty and seed heritage: Leila alleges deliberate destruction of seed banks in Palestine and Syria to ensure long-term dependency.

Open Questions and Points Needing Verification

• The exact composition and role of the personnel at the Naqoura incident site (Lebanese Army vs. foreign monitors) and confirmed casualty figures.
• Official Israeli statements on the incident and independent investigations.
• Documentation regarding the California Board of Education flag decision (which board, when, and specifics of the resolution).
• Primary sources for the purported U.S. policy to revoke PA/PLO visas ahead of UNGA.
• WHO reports on OPV2-associated outbreaks and whether OPV2 was administered in Gaza during the period in question.
• Claims about rainwater collection bans, scope by jurisdiction, and cloud-seeding health impacts.
• Corporate acquisition timelines and formulation changes in consumer products linked to cancer risk.

Contextual Notes on Tone and Framing

• The session contains strong ideological language and far-reaching claims. Where possible, this summary attributes positions to speakers and notes when assertions were anecdotal or not evidenced within the session. Readers should treat policy and health claims as the speakers’ views pending independent corroboration.