TNT DINAR UPDATE 9-19-25
The Spaces reviews a purported imminent currency revaluation (RV) rollout and the banking system’s readiness, led by hosts Tony and Ray. Tony claims final signatures are in (citing BIS and Bank of England) and says Iraq’s PM Mohammed Shia’ al-Sudani (referred to as “Sadani”) announced going international within 48 hours, allegedly verified by an IMF contact. Execution is described as overnight activation with holders waking up to email and in-account notices from banks where currency was purchased or stored in safe deposit boxes; SKR balances would post live. He emphasizes that all banks that handle foreign currency will participate to avoid security risks at a few targets, though not every bank will process every currency, and banks have financial ceilings. A centralized 800-number system is expected to triage appointments; otherwise, opening the doors could cause chaos. Tony reiterates tier-based rates and hints at 20% deposit interest for balances over $1M, while downplaying “negotiation” and business-plan myths. He urges not to call banks, to prepare documents, use debit cards rather than large cash withdrawals, and practice strong account security (new account, separate computer). Q&A covers ZIM base math, Wise/online brokerage constraints (Forex-only), redemption centers (BACs), Canada bank options, and practical exchange logistics.
TNT Friday Call – Status Update on Currency Revaluation (RV) and Banking Readiness
Who’s who and roles
- Tony (Speaker 2): Primary briefings on timelines, bank readiness, rollout sequencing, and rate/tiers discussion. References contacts at IMF and CIA and multiple banking sources.
- Ray (Speaker 1, “Raymond/Ray”): Co-host, facilitates Q&A, adds clarifications (e.g., Canada banks, process). Also runs education (“Open Mic”) and upcoming classes.
- Callers (selected):
- “Finman,” “Woody,” “Jazzy Lady,” “Charles,” “Philip,” “Danny (Dallas),” “Audrey,” “Blade,” “Dream,” among others – posed practical banking, currency, and process questions; Tony/Ray responded.
Current status and timeline claims
- Final sign‑offs: Tony said the “last bank” sign‑off occurred two days prior, naming BIS and Bank of England in that context. He added that “Treasury and Trump” signatures gave a prior “green light.”
- All-banks readiness requirement: Tony emphasized that execution requires every participating bank in all countries to confirm readiness; prior “green lights” were stalled when some banks weren’t ready.
- PM Al‑Sudani announcement: Tony claimed Al‑Sudani announced to US and Treasury reps that Iraq would go live within 48 hours (Wednesday → Friday). IMF contact allegedly verified the meeting and the 48‑hour statement.
- Expected activation window:
- “It will never happen in the middle of the day” – Tony expects an early‑morning (while asleep) activation, visible upon waking.
- Forex visibility to follow with ~72‑hour lag; typical 4X board refresh 1–2 AM.
- If not visible Saturday/Sunday, Tony expects no later than Monday, with general public activity next week.
- Caveat: Tony stressed he cannot be 100% certain until he receives explicit confirmation. As of call end, he was awaiting late‑evening verification.
Rollout approach (what happens when it “goes”)
- Notifications & sequencing:
- Banks will email customers who purchased currency directly from them.
- Banks will also place account‑message flags for those with currency stored in their safe deposit boxes.
- SKR holders: pending deposits to post live at 100% upon go‑live.
- Wealth managers and exchange reps will begin calling clients from their lists.
- Priority: “those who know about it” first; then show on Forex; then general public.
- Appointment mechanics:
- Preference is to distribute an 800‑number so callers can be triaged to a qualified location based on holdings and the bank’s capacity/limits.
- If no 800‑number, Tony cautioned that “storming banks” would create chaos; he favors an organized approach.
- Redemption centers vs. banks:
- Tony: Redemption centers always were banks; they were relabeled as BACs (Banking Alternative Centers). BACs likely remain, but all banks that do foreign currency are being brought in to help manage volume.
Banking capacity, limits, and logistics
- All banks to participate: Tony said earlier some banks opted out, but they have been brought back in to reduce risk of targeting a few locations and to handle expected volume (Tony cited 15–20 million holders, with most holding under 1 million IQD).
- Bank ceilings and one‑exchange rule:
- Each bank has a “financial ceiling” and regulatory growth constraints.
- You cannot split one exchange across multiple banks; Tony said policy is “only exchange once a month.” Choose a bank that can process your full exchange.
- Cash on hand vs. debit use:
- Tony cited one bank moving $100B across branches to ensure sufficient cash for those who insist on physical withdrawals.
- He emphasized debit cards and limit increases can cover most spending, consistent with a move toward digital/cashless transactions.
Rates, tiers, and interest (as discussed; unverified)
- Tiered system:
- Tony said all banks will use standardized tiers to determine both exchange rates and deposit interest offers by size/holder tier.
- Objective: limit subjective negotiation and ensure consistent treatment.
- Interest offers:
- Tony claimed depositors with balances over $1 million could see “at least 20%” interest. No documentation details were provided.
- “Business plans” not required:
- Tony dismissed past talk that a business plan or attire would influence rates; under tiering, these won’t factor.
- Negotiation:
- Even with tiers, Tony advised “nothing beats a failure but a try” – i.e., ask, but don’t expect discretionary adjustments to override tiers.
Currency-specific notes (as stated on the call; unverified)
- IQD (Iraqi Dinar):
- “Minimum to get a high rate”: Tony suggested 1 million IQD as a working threshold (context: tiering).
- A caller referenced $28.50 “contract rate”; Tony did not confirm it as universally available; he said rates would be in systems when live.
- VND (Vietnamese Dong):
- Tony referenced hearing $11 (earlier he had floated $11.50 on prior calls, then reverted to $11 during this session). Final figure to be known at go‑live.
- ZIM (Zimbabwe):
- Regular ZIM: Tony repeatedly stated “point six zeros, 11” (interpreted as 0.000011) and discussed multipliers. He mentioned hints like “if you have more than 10, it was 30,” and “a new player to get 50,” but details were intentionally vague.
- 500 million ZIM note: Tony said it can be exchanged; he has “never talked about zeros being removed.”
- “UN 50‑cent plan”: A caller asked about a 50¢ structure “paid over 20 years.” Tony acknowledged hearing it for the first time and lacked details on the mechanics or interest.
- Zimbabwe agro‑checks: Tony refused to quote numbers but remarked that if values he saw held, even a single holder’s outcome would be astronomical (he joked it would surpass Elon Musk), underscoring extreme uncertainty/speculation on those instruments.
- Other currencies: Tony said not every bank will handle every currency; IQD acceptance is the broadest. He named HSBC, Wells Fargo, Citibank among large banks; he mentioned a list of ~70 banks that “take dinar.”
Platform and timing constraints
- Forex timing: Forex is closed on weekends; any behind‑the‑scenes activation could occur, with public board updates showing in early morning windows when markets open.
- Digital/wallet platforms (WISE, trading accounts):
- Tony stressed these can only reflect and transact at the posted Forex rate and will not pre‑fund or reflect special rates before Forex changes.
Iraq sovereignty context (Tony’s view)
- Tony said Iraq declared sovereignty once US war powers authorization was removed (he referenced related military withdrawals). He said it had been announced earlier in the week and was not “new today,” countering rumors that it was a fresh development.
Canada
- Banks mentioned for Canada: Tony/Ray cited TD Bank and “Royal Bank” (RBC) as participants. Note: wording around “Bank of Canada” was corrected in‑call; Bank of Canada is not a retail bank. Expect TD and RBC for retail exchanges; further details pending official instructions.
Security, operations, and personal setup
- New account at exchange: Tony recommends opening a fresh account for exchange proceeds, separate from existing accounts.
- Dedicated device: He advises a separate computer used only for the bank, never general internet use, to limit hacking exposure.
- Bank risk realities: Tony noted banks have regulatory growth caps; failures happen annually (usually smaller banks); systemically important banks are still seen as “too big to fail.” All money ultimately sits within the same national system.
System direction: digital and cashless
- Tony believes authorities are pushing cashless payments (POS ubiquity, debit/ACH). He warned that centralized control over digital accounts could be toggled “on/off,” urging listeners to prepare for an increasingly digital system and “unexpected” future developments.
Process clarifications and practical Q&A
- Safe deposit and bank purchases:
- If you bought currency at a bank, or stored it in a bank’s safe deposit box (with the mandatory record), expect emails and online account notices instructing you to contact the bank for exchange paperwork.
- Online dealers (e.g., CXI):
- Tony: dealers won’t contact you; they already earned their margin. Watch for TNT instructions and bank notices.
- Trust governance:
- Board minutes: Retain trust meeting minutes (monthly/quarterly/annual). “Report” obligations depend on trust type/jurisdiction; keep proper records.
- Reverse mortgage with line of credit:
- Ray: Whether to pay off or keep the LOC depends on its interest structure (negative, zero, low); run the numbers. Tony reminded: not financial advisors; get professional advice.
- 800 numbers:
- Tony still expects to receive and publish them; last briefing suggested he would. If none are issued and banks simply open, he anticipates chaos and will issue best‑effort guidance in real time.
- Negotiation and “contract rates”:
- Tony expects standardized tiers to curb ad‑hoc negotiating. Still, asking costs nothing, but expect the system to drive outcomes.
- One exchange per month:
- You can switch banks if needed, but cannot split one exchange across multiple banks in the same month.
- Spouses and NDAs:
- Bring spouse to exchange so both can sign NDAs, helping with disclosure boundaries at home.
- Redemption centers/BACs:
- May still be used; with more banks joining, appointments could be spread across both BACs and branches.
What Tony wants listeners to do
- Don’t flood or call banks prematurely.
- Monitor email and bank online account messages for flags/instructions.
- Watch for TNT update (ideally with 800 numbers) after overnight processing.
- Prepare your “first 10 actions” checklist post‑exchange (accounts, security, immediate allocations, documentation).
- Do not gamble or spend in anticipation; nothing is 100% until confirmed.
Uncertainties and open items
- Confirmation pending: Tony awaited late‑evening verification that Al‑Sudani’s 48‑hour go‑live executed and that backend pushes are complete.
- CIA/IMF inputs: Tony stated both were contacting him during the call; he was asked not to disclose certain operational plans (including items referencing Venezuela/Israel), characterizing them as “questionable” and evolving.
- Rates and instruments: Any figures shared on the call (e.g., IQD, VND, ZIM, agro‑checks, 20% interest) are unconfirmed until the system is live and visible in banks/Forex.
Tone and closing
- Tony repeatedly framed this weekend as highly promising, with a “wake up to it” expectation. He cautioned against overreacting if it slips to Monday, reiterating “we’re done, we’re right there.” He urged preparation over speculation, and patience over panic. Ray closed affirming belief and readiness.